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« Reply #12750 on: August 09, 2018, 08:20:30 AM »
Just admit it lah....with close 300% return, Johnmaster is proven to be a top performer by sailang in GSB loh...!!

Naysayers says bcos takeover....thats why the good performance of gsb loh...!!
Ans; GSB pick must be good thats why people willing takeover mah, it just plain business sense loh...!!

The naysayers is dead wrong about him loh....!!

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« Reply #12751 on: August 10, 2018, 05:33:17 PM »
Just admit it lah....with close 300% return, Johnmaster is proven to be a top performer by sailang in GSB loh...!!

Naysayers says bcos takeover....thats why the good performance of gsb loh...!!
Ans; GSB pick must be good thats why people willing takeover mah, it just plain business sense loh...!!

The naysayers is dead wrong about him loh....!!
I can see stockraider is just like those current oppositions. Defending the obvious....!  :rofl: :giggle:
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« Reply #12752 on: August 11, 2018, 10:07:50 AM »
I can see stockraider is just like those current oppositions. Defending the obvious....!  :rofl: :giggle:

The above is a BN sore loser loh...!!

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« Reply #12753 on: August 11, 2018, 10:08:50 AM »
Strategy during crisis investment
Author: CP TEH | Publish date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018, 11:18 AM | >> Read article in Blog website

24-11-2008: Strategy during crisis investment by Ang Kok Heng

When market was high, many investors were careful and avoided jumping onto the bandwagon. Now that the market has fallen, and fallen sharply, many investors are still wary about investing. There is nothing wrong about being careful with one's hard-earned money. Not unless our interest rate falls to 1%, like in the case of US or close to zero in Japan.

The only problem with extremely cautious investors is that they kept their money in banks most of the time. They sighed with relief for not being caught by the market. While they escaped the bear, they also missed the bull. Many Malaysians witnessed the bear and bull during the ups and downs of the economy. Nothing happened to them as they did not suffer any losses and neither did they gain anything from these cycles.

No crystal ball
Many investors were cautious because they do not have a crystal ball to predict where the bottom of the market is. Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a crystal ball in the investment world.

Everyone is faced with the same dilemma. Even the professional investment fraternity cannot predict the market accurately. The only difference between a layman and a professional is that the latter is equipped with a bit more information and some knowledge about investing. But their vision is also limited.

They can only see a few feet ahead. Their vision becomes hazier further away from the target. Beyond certain circumference, they probably cannot predict what will happen. Whatever they forecast is purely based on a set of assumptions which may or may not be valid. As such, the predictions of many analysts and fund managers are nothing more than their own assumptions.

Travelling on rainy night
Investment is like travelling in the rain at night. Some may park their cars by the side of the road during thunderstorms while waiting for the rain to stop.

This is especially true for those with astigmatism and poor night vision. They know they can only travel on a rainy night if they have their vision corrected.

Some will drive very carefully in the downpour due to poor condition of their wipers. They know that they are not equipped to speed before changing the wipers.

For those who are well equipped and familiar with the road conditions including the bends and nooks, they can drive on with reasonable speed. Hence, they arrive home early and safe. Getting home safely is important, but getting home early is definitely an achievement. For those who are less equipped, it is better to get someone who knows how to drive to take over the wheel.
In investment, one must be equipped with the basic investment knowledge and familiar with the investment conditions. Otherwise, the road ahead could be treacherous.

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« Reply #12754 on: August 11, 2018, 10:09:32 AM »
Crisis means opportunities
The prevailing financial crisis in US may provide the much-desired opportunities. The Chinese character for crisis means danger and opportunity. These meanings must have been coined many years ago based on the Chinese' experience. The explanation can be seen as a clue and it has helped many successful people to make huge profit.

"Buy when markets hit the point of maximum pessimism." - Sir John Templeton

For those who have been keeping their savings in the bank, the opportunity arises during a crisis. Their patience eventually becomes fruition. The day of recognition finally arrives and their prayer is answered. Ironically, many who have patiently kept their savings in the safe cradles become more protective of their savings and they just stood by the sidelines, watching the crisis comes and goes. It happened in the past and it is happening now and it may also happen in the future.

Market chaser - a loser
On the contrary, there are also certain groups of investors who always chase the market. They get excited whenever the market runs. They are overwhelmed whenever the bull is in town and they tail behind the bull. When the bull is gone and the bear returns, they become fearful. They hide at home and cuddle whatever balance they have in their savings.

"The public buys the most at the top and the least at the bottom." - Bob Farrell's Rule No 5
As a whole they put in more money during the bull market than in the bear bottom. Some even cut lost after a substantial fall in prices. In a way they "buy high and sell low", whereas the basic rule of investment is to "buy low, then sell high" - a simple investment tenet understood by most people, but not being widely practised. Although we may not know where the bear bottom is, buying in a down market may still lead to losing money. This is definitely true. As long as the purchase is not at market bottom, it may still result in losses for the time being. This is likely to be a short-term loss but compensated by a probable long-term gain. Even if we cannot time the market perfectly, we are definitely better off to "buy low and sell high" then to "buy high and sell low".

Prices fell but value intact
Presently stock prices have fallen sharply. Banks are trading at 1x book value, property stocks sold at 50% discount from net asset value, utility stocks trading at single-digit price-earnings ratio providing an earnings yield of more than 10% net of tax and there are many good stocks trading at dividend yield of 2x bank interest rates.

While prices have fallen off the cliff, the values of these companies are still very much intact. The present financial tsunami in the US has its impact on many Malaysian companies. It will cause a slowdown in our economy and affect earnings over the next one to two years. But isn't this part of business risk? Established and proven companies have weathered this many times as in the past and they will eventually end up bigger and stronger.

Prices may fall but the value of a good company is still very much intact. The value of a company comprises the brand name, business contacts, the team of suppliers, the network of clienteles, the internal management control, the technical skills and etc.

Warren Buffett is busy buying
Warrant Buffett, the second richest man in the world who makes his fortune from stock investment, is busy buying undervalued companies. He sees the value and he also sees prices detaching away from the intrinsic values. He said: "I haven't the faintest idea as to whether stocks will be higher or lower a month - or a year - from now. What is likely, however, is that the market will move higher, perhaps substantially so, well before either sentiment or the economy turn up."

Although we may not be able to imitate exactly what he is doing, we can still follow some of his investment strategies. There are a few strategic moves that he has employed in the current financial crisis:-

• He is able to buy those shares which he likes in the past at a huge discount to the net worth, which means his safety margin at this point is very good.

• He aims to hold the investments for several years for huge profit margin as he is unlikely to sell for a small profit.

• He does not rush in to buy, he is very selective on the stocks he bought.

• He buys gradually. Thus far, he only uses about half of the cash balance in Berkshire Hathaway, his flagship company.

While others witness the collapse of banks in the US and wonder which one will be the next to fall, Buffett discovers many cheap buys. When Alan Greespan said this is a once-in-100-years financial crisis, Buffett believes this is a golden opportunity to accumulate undervalued stocks for his collection.

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« Reply #12755 on: August 11, 2018, 10:10:24 AM »
Catching a falling knife

Some may argue that buying now is like catching a falling knife. If you are not careful, you may be hurt and suffer more losses from falling stock prices. There is no doubt that we may incur short-term losses as long as we do not buy at the bottom. On the other hand, who can determine where and when is the bottom. As long as there are still unknown events or hidden problems, an apparent bottom now may not be the eventual bottom. Since we do not have all the information in the market, it is almost impossible to guess where the bottom will be.

In most cases, we only realise the bottom after it is over and by that time stock prices are running high with much improved market confidence. Market bottom could be there only for a short period. In most cases, market did not stay at the bottom waiting for investors. It will just move on.

Since market moves ahead of the economy by about six months, the market bottoms out when the economy is still gloomy, news are still negative, analysts are still calling underweights and most investors are staying at the sidelines.

In the absence of a crystal ball and in order not to miss the market bottom, it will be more profitable if we learn how to catch a falling knife. The good thing about a falling knife is that, we know it is a falling knife. So, we only need to use some precautionary measures to avoid being slashed by it. Handling something we know is definitely much easier than dealing with the unknown risks, something which hits from behind without warning. When we invest during a crisis we actually go in with our eyes open. We know it is definitely risky but we also know it could also be very profitable. If we can handle the risk, the risk-reward trade-off will be very rewarding.

Emphasise strategies

What we need is to buy near the bottom, not right at the bottom. Investors' frequent question now is when to buy, that is where is the bottom? Perhaps it is more intelligent to ask how much to buy now since nobody will be able to guess where is the market bottom. Even if someone provides advice for market timing on when to buy, how can we trust he knows the answer. He is probably doing it as a favour in order not to disappoint the enquirer with a negative answer - "I don't know" (which is a fact, unfortunately), or he is probably guessing based on some assumptions.

Staggered buying is preferred over bullet purchase which is taking the risk of timing the market bottom. In staggered buying, a pre-determined amount will be set aside for investment over time, say in 10 equal portions.

One common method of staggered investment is dollar cost averaging, an investment scheme made in equal portions periodically, either by a small amount monthly or larger amount quarterly. There are also several variations of staggered investment.

The investment portion can be modified to x percentage of cash balance, say 10% of available cash balance. An investment of RM100,000 will start off with RM10,000 in first purchase, then RM9,000 in second purchase (ie 10% of the RM90,000 cash balance) etc. This method will stretch the money over a longer period.

Other than equal interval investment outlay irrespective of how the market performs, timing of the next staggered investment will only be made if the market dips by say 5% or by 50 points.
For more aggressive investors, a 10-equal portion of investment could be finished before market hits the bottom. This could happen if the market takes longer-than-expected time to recover. On the other hand, a more conservative investor may be investing too slowly and the market may have rebounded before he or she has invested half of the money set aside for investment. This could happen if the market rebounds faster than expected.

Anyway, staggered purchase is a preferred method to avoid the anxiety of market timing and the mixed feeling of fear of further downside and worry of missing the market rebound. As long as the market is undervalued, the strategy of staggered investment ensures that investors are in and are benefiting from the undervalued market.

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« Reply #12756 on: August 11, 2018, 10:16:18 PM »
Catching a falling knife

Some may argue that buying now is like catching a falling knife. If you are not careful, you may be hurt and suffer more losses from falling stock prices. There is no doubt that we may incur short-term losses as long as we do not buy at the bottom. On the other hand, who can determine where and when is the bottom. As long as there are still unknown events or hidden problems, an apparent bottom now may not be the eventual bottom. Since we do not have all the information in the market, it is almost impossible to guess where the bottom will be.

In most cases, we only realise the bottom after it is over and by that time stock prices are running high with much improved market confidence. Market bottom could be there only for a short period. In most cases, market did not stay at the bottom waiting for investors. It will just move on.

Since market moves ahead of the economy by about six months, the market bottoms out when the economy is still gloomy, news are still negative, analysts are still calling underweights and most investors are staying at the sidelines.

In the absence of a crystal ball and in order not to miss the market bottom, it will be more profitable if we learn how to catch a falling knife. The good thing about a falling knife is that, we know it is a falling knife. So, we only need to use some precautionary measures to avoid being slashed by it. Handling something we know is definitely much easier than dealing with the unknown risks, something which hits from behind without warning. When we invest during a crisis we actually go in with our eyes open. We know it is definitely risky but we also know it could also be very profitable. If we can handle the risk, the risk-reward trade-off will be very rewarding.

Emphasise strategies

What we need is to buy near the bottom, not right at the bottom. Investors' frequent question now is when to buy, that is where is the bottom? Perhaps it is more intelligent to ask how much to buy now since nobody will be able to guess where is the market bottom. Even if someone provides advice for market timing on when to buy, how can we trust he knows the answer. He is probably doing it as a favour in order not to disappoint the enquirer with a negative answer - "I don't know" (which is a fact, unfortunately), or he is probably guessing based on some assumptions.

Staggered buying is preferred over bullet purchase which is taking the risk of timing the market bottom. In staggered buying, a pre-determined amount will be set aside for investment over time, say in 10 equal portions.

One common method of staggered investment is dollar cost averaging, an investment scheme made in equal portions periodically, either by a small amount monthly or larger amount quarterly. There are also several variations of staggered investment.

The investment portion can be modified to x percentage of cash balance, say 10% of available cash balance. An investment of RM100,000 will start off with RM10,000 in first purchase, then RM9,000 in second purchase (ie 10% of the RM90,000 cash balance) etc. This method will stretch the money over a longer period.

Other than equal interval investment outlay irrespective of how the market performs, timing of the next staggered investment will only be made if the market dips by say 5% or by 50 points.
For more aggressive investors, a 10-equal portion of investment could be finished before market hits the bottom. This could happen if the market takes longer-than-expected time to recover. On the other hand, a more conservative investor may be investing too slowly and the market may have rebounded before he or she has invested half of the money set aside for investment. This could happen if the market rebounds faster than expected.

Anyway, staggered purchase is a preferred method to avoid the anxiety of market timing and the mixed feeling of fear of further downside and worry of missing the market rebound. As long as the market is undervalued, the strategy of staggered investment ensures that investors are in and are benefiting from the undervalued market.
Sounds like stockraider has been catching a falling knife lately....  :D
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Re: RAIDER IS THE BIGGEST BULL IN INVESTLAH LOH!
« Reply #12757 on: August 12, 2018, 10:57:30 AM »
10 George Soros Quotes on Investing, Additional comments by Calvin Tan Research
Author: calvintaneng   |    Publish date: Sat, 11 Aug 2018, 07:13 PM

Hi guys,

While i read up some comments in Jaks forum I noticed one forumer quoted George Soros.

It is always good to learn some new stuff everyday. And also to get some old truth re enforced as well.

And I have some comments to add further:

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10 George Soros Quotes on Investing
known as “The Man Who Broke the Bank of England.” He earned this title in 1992, when he (famously) made more than a billion dollars selling-short the pound sterling. He is the co-founder and manager of the Quantum Endowment Fund, an international hedge fund with more than $27 billion in assets under management. Soros survived as a young jew, living in Nazi-occupied Hungary in 1944. He then immigrated to England to attend the London School of Economics, and moved to the US in 1956 to work as a stock broker. Today, Soros is a passionate investor, philanthropist, and democratic idealist who could teach us a lot about investing and philosophy. Here are ten very insightful quotes from him:

1. “If investing is entertaining, if you’re having fun, you’re probably not making any money. Good investing is boring.” – As I discussed in this article, personal emotions have no place in investing. If you want to be successful in the long-run, base your investment decisions on rationality and discipline.

2. “I’m only rich because I know when I’m wrong…I basically have survived by recognizing my mistakes.” – Almost every successful investor that I’ve written about knows this. That is, you must recognize and admit your mistakes when you make them, cut your losses short, and move on to the next logical step.

3. “The financial markets generally are unpredictable. So that one has to have different scenarios… The idea that you can actually predict what’s going to happen contradicts my way of looking at the market.” – Successful traders abide by this philosophy by heart. Markets truly are random and no one knows where, when, and how prices will move. The key is to be ready for every scenario that can happen so that you can take advantage of the opportunities that lay ahead.

4. “Markets are constantly in a state of uncertainty and flux, and money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected.” – Since markets are random, anything can happen, even the “unexpected.” The biggest opportunities lie in those unexpected events because most people are betting on the obvious, and in the market, most people are wrong.

5. “The worse a situation becomes, the less it takes to turn it around, and the bigger the upside.” – This is true in life as well as in investing. When you hit rock-bottom, every inch of improvement feels so much better and powerful. If you bought Goldman Sachs (GS) in the midst of the subprime crisis in 2009, you could’ve made more than thrice your money just a year after.

6. “Stock market bubbles don’t grow out of thin air. They have a solid basis in reality, but reality as distorted by a misconception.” – Stock market bubbles start with good corporate or economic fundamentals. Things just go out of hand when people’s misguided greed comes into play.

7. “I contend that financial markets never reflect the underlying reality accurately; they always distort it in some way or another and the distortions find expression in market prices.” – Just like Warren Buffett, Soros also looks at value over price. They both know that price is just noise made by human emotions in the markets. Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset.

8. “Unfortunately, the more complex the system, the greater the room for error.” – Obviously, when it comes to investing, Soros like to KISS (keep it simple, silly). He built a financial empire by adhering to this basic principle, and so should you. A simple but effective investing system will always beat the crap out of a complex system that doesn’t work.

9. “Making an investment decision is like formulating a scientific hypothesis and submitting it to a practical test. The main difference is that the hypothesis that underlies an investment decision is intended to make money and not to establish a universally valid generalization.” – The simple goal of investing is to make money, not to be right all the time. As a trader, I abide by this mantra and it makes it easy for me to accept losses easily and to stick to my investing plan.

10. “We try to catch new trends early and in later stages we try to catch trend reversals. Therefore, we tend to stabilize rather than destabilize the market. We are not doing this as a public service. It is our style of making money.” – Again, like Warren Buffet, Soros enters markets based on valuations. He buys when prices are “low” and sells when they are “high,” thereby effectively catching trend reversals.

If you look at these quotes, you can see that Soros has very similar investment philosophies with Warren Buffet. I guess great minds really do think alike, so let’s adapt these principles into our own investing to get some kick-* results.


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« Reply #12758 on: August 12, 2018, 10:59:41 AM »
Calvin comments:

1. “If investing is entertaining, if you’re having fun, you’re probably not making any money. Good investing is boring.”

VERY TRUE. IN INVESTING MOST OF THE TIME IS VERY BORING INDEED! WHEN JAKS WAS ONLY 40 SEN FEW PEOPLE WERE IN JAKS FORUM THEN.

ANOTHER VERY BORING STOCK WAS PM CORP IN YEARS 2010 to 2012. FOR ALMOST 2 LONG YEARS PM CORP WAS TRADED AT 9 SEN DAY IN DAY OUT!

REALLY BORING THEN. TILL ONE DAY PM CORP POWERED TO 36 SEN AND UP 300%

2. “I’m only rich because I know when I’m wrong…I basically have survived by recognizing my mistakes.” –

YES. IT SAYS, "HE WHO FIGHTS AND RUN AWAY WILL LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY"

UNCLE KYY RUN AWAY FROM MUDAJAYA & JTIASA AT PEAK PRICES OF RM2.70 & RM2.60. BUT MADE A HUGE BLUNDER IN XINQUAN UNTIL IT "SAU TONG".  NOW HE IS WISE TO SLOWLY GET OUT OF JAKS.

3. “The financial markets generally are unpredictable. So that one has to have different scenarios… The idea that you can actually predict what’s going to happen contradicts my way of looking at the market.” – Successful traders abide by this philosophy by heart. Markets truly are random and no one knows where, when, and how prices will move. The key is to be ready for every scenario that can happen so that you can take advantage of the opportunities that lay ahead.

YES AND NO

YES BECAUSE CALVIN MADE A SILLY MISTAKE THINK BN MIGHT STILL WIN BUY A REDUCED MAJORITY.

YES. TOTALLY UNPREDICTABLE AS FOCUS SHIFT UP TO LANGKAWI, PENANG & KEDAH NEW GOLDEN TRIANGLE DUE TO PH STALWARTS HOMEGROUND

NO. BECAUSE UNDER NORMAL TIMES COMPANIES WITH MOAT, SUPERIOR EDGE AND IN GROWING INDUSTRIES SHOULD ALWAYS DO OK. AND THESE STOCKS ARE PREDICTABLE- MCDONALD, APPLE, WAL MART, GEICO INSURANCE & COCA COLA

4. “Markets are constantly in a state of uncertainty and flux, and money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected.” – Since markets are random, anything can happen, even the “unexpected.” The biggest opportunities lie in those unexpected events because most people are betting on the obvious, and in the market, most people are wrong.

I LIKE POINT NO. 4

(((money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected.”)))

ALWAYS LOOK BEYOND THE OBVIOUS: SEE BEYOND THE SURFACE: LOOK BEYOND THE NOW

UNFORTUNATELY THE MAJORITY ONLY INVEST IN ONLY WHAT IS "OBVIOUS". SO IF EVERYONE IS BUYING AT THE SAME TIME - PRICE IS NO LONGER CHEAP. IN FACT MOST PROBABLY DUE TO POPULAR CONSENSUS & CONFIDENCE MOST ARE OVER PAYING

5. “The worse a situation becomes, the less it takes to turn it around, and the bigger the upside.” – This is true in life as well as in investing. When you hit rock-bottom, every inch of improvement feels so much better and powerful. If you bought Goldman Sachs (GS) in the midst of the subprime crisis in 2009, you could’ve made more than thrice your money just a year after.

CORRECT!

CLAP!

CLAP!!

CLAP!!!

WHEN VALUE STOCK CRASHES TO ROCK BOTTOM - THE FUTURE UPSIDE IS GREAT! BUT BOTTOM FISHING IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. IT IS A LONESOME PLACE AND TOTALLY BOMBED OUT AND MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE AVOID IT.

6. “Stock market bubbles don’t grow out of thin air. They have a solid basis in reality, but reality as distorted by a misconception.” – Stock market bubbles start with good corporate or economic fundamentals. Things just go out of hand when people’s misguided greed comes into play.

CORRECT LOH

A GOOD STOCK WHEN FIRST STARTED OUT BUT EUPHORIA TOOK OVER AND IT MOVES FROM VALUE INVESTING INTO SPECULATING. AND THE NOISES DISTORT IT FURTHER TILL ALL GONE MAD!

7. “I contend that financial markets never reflect the underlying reality accurately; they always distort it in some way or another and the distortions find expression in market prices.” – Just like Warren Buffett, Soros also looks at value over price. They both know that price is just noise made by human emotions in the markets. Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset.

WELL SAID

(((Just like Warren Buffett, Soros also looks at value over price. They both know that price is just noise made by human emotions in the markets. Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset.)))

Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset

THUMBS UP!!

8. “Unfortunately, the more complex the system, the greater the room for error.” – Obviously, when it comes to investing, Soros like to KISS (keep it simple, silly). He built a financial empire by adhering to this basic principle, and so should you. A simple but effective investing system will always beat the crap out of a complex system that doesn’t work.

KEEP IT SIMPLE:

WARREN BUFFET INVESTED

SOFT DRINKS - COCA COLA

CHOCOLATES - SEE'S CANDY

CHEWING GUM - WRIGLEY CHEWING GUM

BURGERS - MCDONALD

ALL SIMPLE STUFF

9. “Making an investment decision is like formulating a scientific hypothesis and submitting it to a practical test. The main difference is that the hypothesis that underlies an investment decision is intended to make money and not to establish a universally valid generalization.” – The simple goal of investing is to make money, not to be right all the time. As a trader, I abide by this mantra and it makes it easy for me to accept losses easily and to stick to my investing plan.

NO COMMENT

10. “We try to catch new trends early and in later stages we try to catch trend reversals. Therefore, we tend to stabilize rather than destabilize the market. We are not doing this as a public service. It is our style of making money.” – Again, like Warren Buffet, Soros enters markets based on valuations. He buys when prices are “low” and sells when they are “high,” thereby effectively catching trend reversals.

If you look at these quotes, you can see that Soros has very similar investment philosophies with Warren Buffet. I guess great minds really do think alike, so let’s adapt these principles into our own investing to get some kick-* results.

THIS ONE VERY GOOD
(((“We try to catch new trends early and in later stages we try to catch trend reversals)))

“We try to catch new trends early

WE TRY TO CATCH NEW TRENDS EARLY"

BN GOVT NOW OVER

PH GOVT NOW IN CHARGE

THE POLICIES & CHANGES IN COMING DAYS AND MONTHS WILL SET NEW DIRECTIONS FOR THE MARKETS

SO WATCH CAREFULLY WHAT & WHY THEY IMPLEMENT

AND MORE NEW TRENDS WILL EMERGE

GOOD LUCK TO ALL

BEST REGARDS

Calvin Tan Research

Singapore

 



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« Reply #12759 on: August 12, 2018, 06:29:37 PM »
Calvin comments:

1. “If investing is entertaining, if you’re having fun, you’re probably not making any money. Good investing is boring.”

VERY TRUE. IN INVESTING MOST OF THE TIME IS VERY BORING INDEED! WHEN JAKS WAS ONLY 40 SEN FEW PEOPLE WERE IN JAKS FORUM THEN.

ANOTHER VERY BORING STOCK WAS PM CORP IN YEARS 2010 to 2012. FOR ALMOST 2 LONG YEARS PM CORP WAS TRADED AT 9 SEN DAY IN DAY OUT!

REALLY BORING THEN. TILL ONE DAY PM CORP POWERED TO 36 SEN AND UP 300%

2. “I’m only rich because I know when I’m wrong…I basically have survived by recognizing my mistakes.” –

YES. IT SAYS, "HE WHO FIGHTS AND RUN AWAY WILL LIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY"

UNCLE KYY RUN AWAY FROM MUDAJAYA & JTIASA AT PEAK PRICES OF RM2.70 & RM2.60. BUT MADE A HUGE BLUNDER IN XINQUAN UNTIL IT "SAU TONG".  NOW HE IS WISE TO SLOWLY GET OUT OF JAKS.

3. “The financial markets generally are unpredictable. So that one has to have different scenarios… The idea that you can actually predict what’s going to happen contradicts my way of looking at the market.” – Successful traders abide by this philosophy by heart. Markets truly are random and no one knows where, when, and how prices will move. The key is to be ready for every scenario that can happen so that you can take advantage of the opportunities that lay ahead.

YES AND NO

YES BECAUSE CALVIN MADE A SILLY MISTAKE THINK BN MIGHT STILL WIN BUY A REDUCED MAJORITY.

YES. TOTALLY UNPREDICTABLE AS FOCUS SHIFT UP TO LANGKAWI, PENANG & KEDAH NEW GOLDEN TRIANGLE DUE TO PH STALWARTS HOMEGROUND

NO. BECAUSE UNDER NORMAL TIMES COMPANIES WITH MOAT, SUPERIOR EDGE AND IN GROWING INDUSTRIES SHOULD ALWAYS DO OK. AND THESE STOCKS ARE PREDICTABLE- MCDONALD, APPLE, WAL MART, GEICO INSURANCE & COCA COLA

4. “Markets are constantly in a state of uncertainty and flux, and money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected.” – Since markets are random, anything can happen, even the “unexpected.” The biggest opportunities lie in those unexpected events because most people are betting on the obvious, and in the market, most people are wrong.

I LIKE POINT NO. 4

(((money is made by discounting the obvious and betting on the unexpected.”)))

ALWAYS LOOK BEYOND THE OBVIOUS: SEE BEYOND THE SURFACE: LOOK BEYOND THE NOW

UNFORTUNATELY THE MAJORITY ONLY INVEST IN ONLY WHAT IS "OBVIOUS". SO IF EVERYONE IS BUYING AT THE SAME TIME - PRICE IS NO LONGER CHEAP. IN FACT MOST PROBABLY DUE TO POPULAR CONSENSUS & CONFIDENCE MOST ARE OVER PAYING

5. “The worse a situation becomes, the less it takes to turn it around, and the bigger the upside.” – This is true in life as well as in investing. When you hit rock-bottom, every inch of improvement feels so much better and powerful. If you bought Goldman Sachs (GS) in the midst of the subprime crisis in 2009, you could’ve made more than thrice your money just a year after.

CORRECT!

CLAP!

CLAP!!

CLAP!!!

WHEN VALUE STOCK CRASHES TO ROCK BOTTOM - THE FUTURE UPSIDE IS GREAT! BUT BOTTOM FISHING IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. IT IS A LONESOME PLACE AND TOTALLY BOMBED OUT AND MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE AVOID IT.

6. “Stock market bubbles don’t grow out of thin air. They have a solid basis in reality, but reality as distorted by a misconception.” – Stock market bubbles start with good corporate or economic fundamentals. Things just go out of hand when people’s misguided greed comes into play.

CORRECT LOH

A GOOD STOCK WHEN FIRST STARTED OUT BUT EUPHORIA TOOK OVER AND IT MOVES FROM VALUE INVESTING INTO SPECULATING. AND THE NOISES DISTORT IT FURTHER TILL ALL GONE MAD!

7. “I contend that financial markets never reflect the underlying reality accurately; they always distort it in some way or another and the distortions find expression in market prices.” – Just like Warren Buffett, Soros also looks at value over price. They both know that price is just noise made by human emotions in the markets. Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset.

WELL SAID

(((Just like Warren Buffett, Soros also looks at value over price. They both know that price is just noise made by human emotions in the markets. Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset.)))

Value, on the other hand, is the intrinsic worth of an asset

THUMBS UP!!

8. “Unfortunately, the more complex the system, the greater the room for error.” – Obviously, when it comes to investing, Soros like to KISS (keep it simple, silly). He built a financial empire by adhering to this basic principle, and so should you. A simple but effective investing system will always beat the crap out of a complex system that doesn’t work.

KEEP IT SIMPLE:

WARREN BUFFET INVESTED

SOFT DRINKS - COCA COLA

CHOCOLATES - SEE'S CANDY

CHEWING GUM - WRIGLEY CHEWING GUM

BURGERS - MCDONALD

ALL SIMPLE STUFF

9. “Making an investment decision is like formulating a scientific hypothesis and submitting it to a practical test. The main difference is that the hypothesis that underlies an investment decision is intended to make money and not to establish a universally valid generalization.” – The simple goal of investing is to make money, not to be right all the time. As a trader, I abide by this mantra and it makes it easy for me to accept losses easily and to stick to my investing plan.

NO COMMENT

10. “We try to catch new trends early and in later stages we try to catch trend reversals. Therefore, we tend to stabilize rather than destabilize the market. We are not doing this as a public service. It is our style of making money.” – Again, like Warren Buffet, Soros enters markets based on valuations. He buys when prices are “low” and sells when they are “high,” thereby effectively catching trend reversals.

If you look at these quotes, you can see that Soros has very similar investment philosophies with Warren Buffet. I guess great minds really do think alike, so let’s adapt these principles into our own investing to get some kick-* results.

THIS ONE VERY GOOD
(((“We try to catch new trends early and in later stages we try to catch trend reversals)))

“We try to catch new trends early

WE TRY TO CATCH NEW TRENDS EARLY"

BN GOVT NOW OVER

PH GOVT NOW IN CHARGE

THE POLICIES & CHANGES IN COMING DAYS AND MONTHS WILL SET NEW DIRECTIONS FOR THE MARKETS

SO WATCH CAREFULLY WHAT & WHY THEY IMPLEMENT

AND MORE NEW TRENDS WILL EMERGE

GOOD LUCK TO ALL

BEST REGARDS

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« Reply #12760 on: August 12, 2018, 07:36:27 PM »
Another human worshiping a corrupted idol. Truth hurts once the smoke has settled..... :D

THIS * SHYTE....REMEMBER U BULLIED JOHNMASTER ON HIS GSB WHEN IT IS RM 0.07 TO RM 0.08 ??

TODAY GSB ABOVE RM 0.22, JOHN IS PROVEN RIGHT & A HERO LOH....!!

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« Reply #12761 on: August 13, 2018, 01:33:26 PM »
THIS * SHYTE....REMEMBER U BULLIED JOHNMASTER ON HIS GSB WHEN IT IS RM 0.07 TO RM 0.08 ??

TODAY GSB ABOVE RM 0.22, JOHN IS PROVEN RIGHT & A HERO LOH....!!
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« Reply #12762 on: August 26, 2018, 11:37:52 AM »
Thats why raider says if u want to trade uselah...Mr market model loh..!!

Also it is ok to borrow...if u r good...like most business do borrow mah.....!!

“Mr. Market” by Warren Buffett
Whenever Charlie and I buy common stocks for Berkshires’s insurance companies (leaving aside arbitrage purchases, discussed in the next essay), we approach the transaction as if we were buying into a private business. We look at the economic prospects of the business, the people in charge of running it, and the price we must pay. We do not have in mind any time or price for sale. Indeed, we are willing to hold a stock indefinitely so long as we expect the business to increase in intrinsic value at a satisfactory rate. When investing, we view ourselves as business analysts, and not even as security analysts.

Our approach makes an active trading market useful since it periodically presents us with mouth-watering opportunities. But by no means is it essential: a prolonged suspension for trading in the securities we hold would not bother us any more that does the lack of daily quotations on World Book or Fechheimer. Eventually, our economic fate will be determined by the economic fate of the business we own, whether our ownership is partial or total.

Ben Graham, my friend and teacher, long ago described the mental attitude toward market fluctuations that I believe to be the most conducive to investment success.  He said that you should imagine market quotations as coming from a remarkably accommodating fellow named Mr. Market who is your partner in a private business.  Without fail, Mr. Market appears daily and names a price at which he will either buy your interest or sell you his.

Even though the business that the tow of you own may have economic characteristics that are stable, Mr. Market’s quotations will be anything but. For, sad to say, the poor fellow has incurable emotional problems. At times he feels euphoric and we can see only the favorable factors affecting the business. When in that mood, he names a very high buy-sell price because he fears that you will snap up his interest and rob him of imminent gains. At other times he is depressed and can see nothing but trouble ahead for both the business and the world. On these occasions he will name a very low price, since he is terrified that you will unload your interest on him.

Mr. Market has another endearing characteristic: He doesn’t mind being ignored. If his quotation is uninteresting to you today, he will back with a new one tomorrow. Transactions are strictly at your option. Under these conditions, the more manic-depressive his behavior, the better for you. (This means NOW, 2015 — Cokie’s words.)

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« Reply #12763 on: August 26, 2018, 11:38:44 AM »

But, like Cinderella at the ball, you must heed one warning or everything will turn into pumpkins and mice: Mr. Market is there to serve you, not to guide you. It is his pocketbook, not his wisdom,that you will find useful. If he shows up some day in a particularly foolish mood, you are free to either ignore him or to take advantage of him, but it will be disastrous if you fall under his influence. Indeed, if you aren’t certain that you understand and can value your business far better than Mr. Market you don’t belong in the game. As they say in poker, “If you’ve been in the game 30 minutes and you don’t know who the patsy is, you’re the patsy.” (Ahem, don’t be the patsy, contact Alphavest to help negotiate Mr. Market’s moods for you.)

Ben’s Mr. Market allegory may seem out-of-date in today’s investment world, in which most professionals and academicians talk of efficient markets, dynamic hedgings and betas. Their interest in such matters is understandable, since techniques shrouded in mystery clearly have value to the purveyor of investment advice. After all, what witch doctor has ever achieved fame and fortune by simply advising “Take two aspirins”?

The value of market esoterica to the consumer of investment advice is a different story.  In my opinion, investment success will not be produced by arcane formulae, computer programs or signals flashed by the price behavior of stocks and markets. Rather an investor will succeed by coupling good business judgment with an ability to insulate his thoughts and behavior  from the super-contagious emotions that swirl  about the marketplace. In my own efforts to stay insulated, I have found it highly useful to keep Ben’s Mr. Market concept firmly in mind.

Following Ben’s teachings, Charlie and I let our marketable equities tell us by the operating results— not by their daily, or even yearly, price quotations–whether our investments are successful. The market may ignore business success for a while, but eventually will confirm it.  As Ben said: “In the short run, the market is a voting machine but in the long run it is a weighing machine.” The speed at which business’s success is recognized, furthermore, is not that important as a long as the company’s intrinsic value is increasing at a satisfactory rate.  In fact, delayed recognition can be an advantage: It may give us the chance to buy more of a good thing at a bargain price.

Sometimes, of course, the market may judge a business to be more valuable than the underlying facts would indicate it is. In such a case, we will sell our holdings. Sometimes, also, we will sell a security that is fairly valued or even undervalued because we require funds for a still more undervalued investment or one we believe we understand better.

We need to emphasize, however, that we do not sell holdings just because they have appreciated or because we have held them for a long time. (Of Wall Street maxims the most foolish may be “You can’t go broke taking a profit.”) We are quite content holding a security indefinitely, so long as the prospective return on equity capital of the underlying business is satisfactory, management is competent and honest, and the market does not overvalue the business.

However, our insurance companies own three marketable common stocks that we would not sell even though they became far overprices in the market. In effect, we view these investments exactly like our successful controlled businesses — a permanent part of Berkshire rather than merchandise to be disposed of once Mr. Market offers us a sufficiently high price.  To that, I will add one qualifier: These stocks are held by our insurance companies and we would, if absolutely necessary, sell portions of our holdings to pay extraordinary insurance losses.  We intend, however, to manage our affairs so that sales are never required.

A determination to have and hold, which Charlie and I share, obviously involves a mixture of personal and financial considerations. To some, our stand may seem highly eccentric. (Charlie and I have long followed David Ogilvy’s advice: “Develop your eccentricities awhile you are young.  That way, when you get old, people won’t think you’re going ga-ga.”) Certainly, in the transaction-fixated Wall Street of recent years, our posture must seem odd: To many in that arena, both companies and stocks are seen only as raw material for trades.

Our attitude, however, fits our personalities and the way we want to live our lives. Churchill once said, “You shape your houses and then they shape you.” We know the manner in which we wish to be shaped. For that reason, we would rather achieve a return of X while associating with people whom we strongly like and admire than realize 110% of X by exchanging these relationships for uninteresting or unpleasant ones.

 

And Calvin comments:

 

This madness of the heart is the reason why so many eventually failed in both the stock market and also in real life.

 

They sacrifice the permanent on the altar of the immediate -  Dr. Bob Jones, Sr

 

Going for short term punting at the expense of Long Term Value Investing

 

Warm Regards

 

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« Reply #12764 on: August 26, 2018, 01:50:13 PM »
Do you really actually understand about stock trading?
Author: KLSEtraderOfficial   |    Publish date: Sun, 26 Aug 2018, 01:37 PM

Trading may be a simple process of buying and selling. Trading is simple, but it is never easy. Not much people succeed in trading because lack of study in depth about stock trading. Beginners might even think that trading is about Technical Analysis, buying at support and selling at the resistance. But they are still far away from being a successful trader. Here is a list that you can go through to see if you actually understand every thing about trading.

1.) Trading is about taking small losses and making big profits. But never to have big losses.

2.) Trading is about managing your own anxieties.

3.) You can never predict the stock market.

4.) Not every strategy in the market is profitable. You can't trade based on your own personality. You must trade with a proven profitable strategy. I would highly recommend Trend-following m.ethod. It is proven by many successful top traders such as Ed Seykota, David Harding, Richard Dennis and William Eckhart.

5.) Stock Trading is not gambling. It is totally different. The only similarity is that in short-term they both are based on luck.

6.) The market doesn't care about your feelings, the market won't give you profits to symphathize you.

7.) Systematic approach is very important in trading. being Discipline always wins being smart in trading.

8.) You should always do position sizing when you trade. If not, you will go broke very fast.

9.) Never to use demo account to trade. You won't learn anything from trading. Just of the opposite, it makes it worse. Because there is no real money involved in the trade, you will feel that trading is easy. When you put money into a situation, they always become much more complicated.

10.) Always formulate a plan to buy, sell and stop-loss before the market. Because during the market, you are more prone to error.

11.) Trading is a game of probability.

12.) Money management can help to reduce many of the emotional error that you will be making in trading.

13.) Patience is the key to success in trading.

14.) When you are right, you win profits. When you are wrong, you should cut your losses short. No second thought.

15.) Technical analysis is not 100% reliable, Fundamental analysis is not 100% reliable. Nothing in market is reliable. That is why stock market is unpredictable. They only gives you high probability of achieving profits.

16.) When you talk about trading, you talk about Risk management, Money management, Emotional Discipline, Formulating a plan to buy,sell and stop-loss and having a profitable strategy.

 

If there is any of the point that you are not clear, you may stil need more reading to learn about trading. Maybe this is the reason why you are not profitable in the current moment? Hope this helps you to become a better trader.

 

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« Reply #12765 on: August 26, 2018, 10:51:32 PM »
Thats why raider says if u want to trade uselah...Mr market model loh..!!

Also it is ok to borrow...if u r good...like most business do borrow mah.....!!

“Mr. Market” by Warren Buffett
Whenever Charlie and I buy common stocks for Berkshires’s insurance companies (leaving aside arbitrage purchases, discussed in the next essay), we approach the transaction as if we were buying into a private business. We look at the economic prospects of the business, the people in charge of running it, and the price we must pay. We do not have in mind any time or price for sale. Indeed, we are willing to hold a stock indefinitely so long as we expect the business to increase in intrinsic value at a satisfactory rate. When investing, we view ourselves as business analysts, and not even as security analysts.

Our approach makes an active trading market useful since it periodically presents us with mouth-watering opportunities. But by no means is it essential: a prolonged suspension for trading in the securities we hold would not bother us any more that does the lack of daily quotations on World Book or Fechheimer. Eventually, our economic fate will be determined by the economic fate of the business we own, whether our ownership is partial or total.

Ben Graham, my friend and teacher, long ago described the mental attitude toward market fluctuations that I believe to be the most conducive to investment success.  He said that you should imagine market quotations as coming from a remarkably accommodating fellow named Mr. Market who is your partner in a private business.  Without fail, Mr. Market appears daily and names a price at which he will either buy your interest or sell you his.

Even though the business that the tow of you own may have economic characteristics that are stable, Mr. Market’s quotations will be anything but. For, sad to say, the poor fellow has incurable emotional problems. At times he feels euphoric and we can see only the favorable factors affecting the business. When in that mood, he names a very high buy-sell price because he fears that you will snap up his interest and rob him of imminent gains. At other times he is depressed and can see nothing but trouble ahead for both the business and the world. On these occasions he will name a very low price, since he is terrified that you will unload your interest on him.

Mr. Market has another endearing characteristic: He doesn’t mind being ignored. If his quotation is uninteresting to you today, he will back with a new one tomorrow. Transactions are strictly at your option. Under these conditions, the more manic-depressive his behavior, the better for you. (This means NOW, 2015 — Cokie’s words.)
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« Reply #12766 on: August 27, 2018, 02:28:21 PM »
 :D :D :D..........lost until left underwears ,no debts atleast got porridge to eat!! :speechless: :speechless: :speechless:

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« Reply #12767 on: August 27, 2018, 03:18:25 PM »
:D :D :D..........lost until left underwears ,no debts tleast got porridge to eat!! :speechless: :speechless: :speechless:

ThaNks GOD ,  ONG still alive  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :cash:
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« Reply #12768 on: August 27, 2018, 06:49:37 PM »
ONG losing his underwear. Next one could be....... :sweat:
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« Reply #12769 on: November 09, 2018, 10:15:22 AM »
Raider has vanished into thin air recently.
It’s better to buy a wonderful company at fair price than a fair company at wonderful price.

1.  Understand the business
2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

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« Reply #12770 on: November 09, 2018, 10:21:26 AM »
Thats why raider says if u want to trade uselah...Mr market model loh..!!

Also it is ok to borrow...if u r good...like most business do borrow mah.....!!


“Mr. Market” by Warren Buffett
Whenever Charlie and I buy common stocks for Berkshires’s insurance companies (leaving aside arbitrage purchases, discussed in the next essay), we approach the transaction as if we were buying into a private business. We look at the economic prospects of the business, the people in charge of running it, and the price we must pay. We do not have in mind any time or price for sale. Indeed, we are willing to hold a stock indefinitely so long as we expect the business to increase in intrinsic value at a satisfactory rate. When investing, we view ourselves as business analysts, and not even as security analysts.

Our approach makes an active trading market useful since it periodically presents us with mouth-watering opportunities. But by no means is it essential: a prolonged suspension for trading in the securities we hold would not bother us any more that does the lack of daily quotations on World Book or Fechheimer. Eventually, our economic fate will be determined by the economic fate of the business we own, whether our ownership is partial or total.

Ben Graham, my friend and teacher, long ago described the mental attitude toward market fluctuations that I believe to be the most conducive to investment success.  He said that you should imagine market quotations as coming from a remarkably accommodating fellow named Mr. Market who is your partner in a private business.  Without fail, Mr. Market appears daily and names a price at which he will either buy your interest or sell you his.

Even though the business that the tow of you own may have economic characteristics that are stable, Mr. Market’s quotations will be anything but. For, sad to say, the poor fellow has incurable emotional problems. At times he feels euphoric and we can see only the favorable factors affecting the business. When in that mood, he names a very high buy-sell price because he fears that you will snap up his interest and rob him of imminent gains. At other times he is depressed and can see nothing but trouble ahead for both the business and the world. On these occasions he will name a very low price, since he is terrified that you will unload your interest on him.

Mr. Market has another endearing characteristic: He doesn’t mind being ignored. If his quotation is uninteresting to you today, he will back with a new one tomorrow. Transactions are strictly at your option. Under these conditions, the more manic-depressive his behavior, the better for you. (This means NOW, 2015 — Cokie’s words.)



Recent activities in Hengyuan guided:

When raider is joyous, you should be feeling fearful. 
When raider is sad, you should be feeling greedy.


Do not follow Mr. Market.  He is not there to guide you.  You should take advantage of him.  He doesn't mind and will still shows up the next day with his price.   :)
It’s better to buy a wonderful company at fair price than a fair company at wonderful price.

1.  Understand the business
2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

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« Reply #12771 on: November 09, 2018, 11:30:40 AM »
 ;)......1620!! :'( :'( :'(

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« Reply #12772 on: November 09, 2018, 12:29:28 PM »
 ;),,,,,,,,,,waiting yingting hairen(for very clevergambler :handshake: :handshake:) at 2.80! :D :D :D

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« Reply #12773 on: December 06, 2018, 08:40:27 AM »


Recent activities in Hengyuan guided:

When raider is joyous, you should be feeling fearful. 
When raider is sad, you should be feeling greedy.


Do not follow Mr. Market.  He is not there to guide you.  You should take advantage of him.  He doesn't mind and will still shows up the next day with his price.   :)

Understand this loh.....!!
In investment every dogs has its days loh....!!
Take Padini for example......this 3iii has been shouting and screaming like a champion about it....but just within 1 wk....this Padini loss 50% of its value loh.....!!

As for Hengyuan....at this price.....Raider is comfortable....having sold a big position at a much higher price....Raider has been buying back loh.....!!
But my current position right now still very small loh....!!

ALWAYS REMEMBER TO PROTECT YOUR INVESTMENT WITH A STOP POSITION.
U CAN ALWAYS BUY BACK MAH.....!!

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« Reply #12774 on: December 06, 2018, 11:46:43 AM »
Understand this loh.....!!
In investment every dogs has its days loh....!!
Take Padini for example......this 3iii has been shouting and screaming like a champion about it....but just within 1 wk....this Padini loss 50% of its value loh.....!!

As for Hengyuan....at this price.....Raider is comfortable....having sold a big position at a much higher price....Raider has been buying back loh.....!!
But my current position right now still very small loh....!!

ALWAYS REMEMBER TO PROTECT YOUR INVESTMENT WITH A STOP POSITION.
U CAN ALWAYS BUY BACK MAH.....!!
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« Reply #12775 on: December 06, 2018, 12:38:04 PM »
My 2 best friends also got a piece of delicious bone on their birthday.  :D :D :D

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« Reply #12776 on: December 07, 2018, 12:11:47 PM »
Poor raider.  His investments decimated.

It’s better to buy a wonderful company at fair price than a fair company at wonderful price.

1.  Understand the business
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3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

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« Reply #12777 on: December 09, 2018, 01:23:22 PM »
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How many time raider need to tell u at one time hengyuan really got the potential to go Rm 42.00 ??

It just that unfortunately the fundamental of hengyuan collapse mah, just like ur Padini loh...!!

If that happen, must lari kuat kuat loh...!!

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Good lesson for raider : You cannot fool people all the time. This rubbish of Hengyuan going to $42 and that you will be buying and holding forever ... what a dishonest person indeed.

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« Reply #12778 on: December 09, 2018, 02:48:47 PM »
 :D :D :D.......dont come n beg for tips loh!!!! :P.......so situpit like KaNiMa loh!!! :shake: :shake:.............sold all rm18 oso

never brag n look back before  never lohmaikai mah!!! :D :D :D..............dont go ask yourself to die mah!!!!...,come

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« Reply #12779 on: December 20, 2018, 09:29:50 AM »
Poor raider.  Swimming naked.
It’s better to buy a wonderful company at fair price than a fair company at wonderful price.

1.  Understand the business
2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

Big Fat Pitch.  Focus Investing.  Long term portfolio for capital appreciation and income.

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Re: RAIDER IS THE BIGGEST BULL IN INVESTLAH LOH!
« Reply #12780 on: December 20, 2018, 09:35:40 AM »
Now, mani oredi become small kampong kids, swimming naked in muddy river lah.  :D :D :D

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« Reply #12781 on: December 30, 2018, 01:11:46 PM »
CNY rally...

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« Reply #12782 on: January 21, 2019, 09:34:46 AM »
remember LENO superb buying
1. Analabs buy from 80 sen all the way to rm 1.20 ... hold and sell ALL at rm 1.80
2. Leader buy from 40 sen all the way to rm 1.00 ... then privatise at rm 1.10
3. CSCteel buy from rm 1.00 all the way rm 1.50 ... then sell ALL at rm 1.70
3. CSCenic
4. BPPlas
5. HingYap buy from rm 1.20 ... sell RM 1.80
6. Titan
7. GSB
8. MMC
9. YTLPower-wb
10. DRBHicom
11. UMW
12. MNRB
13. PBBank from rm 2.40 ... sell at RM 8.00 within 2 year
14. BJToto
15. PRKCorp rm 1.25 all the way to rm 1.40 and still holding

OF COURSE it is THE SKILL.
But do u expect Leno or Raider goin to TELL u how meh ?
U think we are * arr ?
U pay money also we not goin to TELL lor.
Why not ? We alreadi got tons of MONEY ... what heck need to collect fee like DALI ?

Just give a bit here and there like feeding some chicken in reban ... should enough mar.

HE HE HE

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It’s better to buy a wonderful company at fair price than a fair company at wonderful price.

1.  Understand the business
2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

Big Fat Pitch.  Focus Investing.  Long term portfolio for capital appreciation and income.

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« Reply #12783 on: January 21, 2019, 10:01:27 AM »
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OF COURSE it is THE SKILL.
But do u expect Leno or Raider goin to TELL u how meh ?
U think we are * arr ?
U pay money also we not goin to TELL lor.
Why not ? We alreadi got tons of MONEY ... what heck need to collect fee like DALI ?

Just give a bit here and there like feeding some chicken in reban ... should enough mar.
Skill my "S"! Illegal Insider Info is not a skill...... :D
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« Reply #12784 on: January 31, 2019, 04:18:20 PM »
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« Reply #12785 on: March 17, 2019, 01:32:19 PM »
CORRECTLOH JUST LOOK AT GENERAL RAIDER CALL ON SAPNRG VERY TRUE MAH...!!
U NEED TO BE SMART AND HAVE SPECIAL HARDWORKING TRAINING IN ORDER TO BE SUCCESSFUL LOH....!!

Lessons from – “The Five Rules for Successful Stock Investing” by Pat Dorsey. Pat Dorsey is the Director of Stock Analysis at Morningstar.

· Picking individual stocks requires hard work,discipline and an investment of time (and money). SAPNRG IS NOT CHINCHAI MAH..IT IS MONTHS AND MONTHS OF INTENSIVE RESEARCH DONE VERY CAREFULLY TO GUARANTEE GREAT SUCCESSFUL BUY LOH...!!

· You need patience, an understanding of accounting and competitive strategy and a healthy dose of skepticism . THIS TRUE LOH...RAIDER CAN ASK U TO BUY RM O.30 AND THEN ASK YOU TO SELL RM 0.365 WITHIN 1 MTH AND MAKE 20%, BUT RAIDER DON DO THAT BCOS RAIDER KNOW SUCCESSFUL MAJOR KILLING IN STOCK MARKET, NEED TIME TO DEVELOP, THATS WHY RAIDER ASK U TO KEEP LONG TERM AT LEAST 3 YRS AND 3 MTHS.

· Buying stock means part ownership in a business .YES SAPNRG U ARE OWNING AN OIL N GAS BUSINESS, ALOT OF PRODUCTS NEED THIS RAW MATERIAL INPUT LOH....THUS DEMAND IS CONFIRMED LOH...!!

· Courage of conviction. U JUST LOOK AT RAIDER BOLD CONVICTION AND SAILANG CONVICTION WITH TP POTENTIAL 3.00, AND HOLD LONGTERM WITHOUT WAVERING EVEN MKT SELLDOWN...U WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT IS COURAGE & CONVICTION ABOUT LOH.

· Companies with most conflict of opinion are often best investments ( think contrarian). CORFRECTLOH ALOT OF PEOPLE ARGUE AND BELITTLE RAIDER SAPNRG PICK, BUT RAIDER JUST STANDBY WITH THE GREAT CONVICTION OF SAPNRG SUREWIN, WITHOUT ANY FEAR....BCOS RAIDER KNOW....THIS IS THE BEST PICK U CAN EVER FIND MAH..!!

EXACTLY SIMILIAR TO RAIDER MARGIN OF SAFETY APPROACH
Core principles of investing
o Doing your homework
o Finding companies with strong competitive advantages
o Having a margin of safety
o Holding for the long term
o Knowing when to sell

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« Reply #12786 on: March 17, 2019, 01:34:28 PM »
REMEMBER THIS OLD ARCHAIC INTELLIGENT ADVICE WHEN U INVEST IN SAPNRG LOH....!!

And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season;

WHEN YOU PLANT A TREE - IT DOES NOT BEAR FRUIT INSTANTLY

IT TAKES TIME

IT BRINGS FORTH FRUIT HIS FRUIT IN HIS SEASON

HA!! THAT IS THE SECRET!!

IT TAKES TIME FOR DURIAN TO BEAR FRUIT



SO IS IN INVESTMENTS

WE MUST INVEST WHEN WE SEE SEEDS PLANTED. AND WATER THE PLANTS and measure its value and potential and compare to the share price

THEN WE BUY THE SHARES when there is huge margin of safety loh...!!

AND WAIT

AND WAIT

AND WAIT TILL FRUIT COMES.

Usually big fruits will come 3 to 5 yrs loh....!!

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« Reply #12787 on: March 17, 2019, 01:38:14 PM »
Dayang: The Effect of Naim and Perdana Limit Up and soon the upthrust flow to SAPNRG

Yesterday the price of Naim shot up from 90sen to Rm 1.20, an increase of 30sen or limit up of 30%.
Yesterday the price of Perdana shot up from 30 sen to 45sen an increase of 15sen or limit up of 50%.

Naim owns 26% of Dayang.
Dayang owns 60% of Perdana

Mostly likely that shareholders of Naim and Perdana are also shareholders of Dayang and sapnrg but they were too involved in Naim and Perdana and neglected Dayang & Sapnrg yesterday.

In addition All smart investors should sell some of their holdings in Naim and Perdana to buy Dayang and sapnrg today and tomorrow should also quickly buy sapnrg mah...!!.

Smart investors who do not have Sapnrg shares before should buy Sapnrg as soon as possible.

Among all the O & G stocks, Sapnrg is the cheapest in terms of its profit growth prospect and its valuable resources & assets in hand.
In the good yr of sapnrg in 2015 it make close to Rm 1.4 billion or eps of 21 sen.
With the additional profit from the newly secured contracts of Rm 19.3b and the absent of the N-E monsoon, its next quarter EPS should be very much higher..

What price would you rate for a great growth stock which has the potential to earn rm 3b to rm 4b per year ?

This is happening soon Sapnrg could be the top 10 earners in msia and the most profitable oil & gas co.

Right now it is cheap at 36.5 sen, it is a steal loh...!!
This is opportunity for u to make tonnes of money mah...!!

I hope my imagination will come true.
Remember a man’s success is limited by his own imagination.

Buy as much u can afford, hold tight and within 3 yrs, it will be a 8 to 10 baggers loh....!!

Stay on course, the profit u can reap is beyond of any of your imagination loh...!!

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« Reply #12788 on: March 17, 2019, 01:39:05 PM »
The Great old days of Sapnrg....it actually makes very good profit after tax as follows;

1. Jan 2015 Profit after tax of Rm 1.432 billion.

2. Jan 2014 Profit after tax of Rn 1.086 billion.

After 2015, Sapnrg had further transformed, to even much bigger group thru massive acquisition of NEWFIELD oil fields and Seadrills.

However unfortunately, 2018 and 2019 sapnrg suffered massive losses due cancellation and scaling down of oil upstreams projects as crude oil price collapse, in addition beside operation losses there are also massive losses due to assets impairment mainly due to assets under utilize loh...!!

With the recovery of Brent crude oil to close to USD 68, sapnrg profitability is expected to improve and surge for the next 3 yrs, the expected sapnrg pat is expected to hit rm 3.0 to rm 5.0 billion over the next 3 yrs loh....!!

With this type of recovery and profits anticipated, SAPNRG is expected to hit above Rm 70.0 billion or achieving share price of Rm 3.00 loh......!!

So friends, do not look down sapnrg earnings potential, they have done it b4, achieving close to rm 1.4 billion in Jan 2015, that is without the the help of newly acquire companies like seadrills and newfield oil assets.

The prospect going fwd is extremely bright with Rm 19.3 billion contract already in hand and further the co expected to secure increasing contract to Rm 40.0 billion over the next 1 yr, due to the current booming oil industry.

On the upstream side, sapnrg 50% partner OMV will help in massive oil & gas extraction at least tripling the current production volume loh...!!
This is expected to generate profits of Rm 1.0 to Rm 2.5 billion just on this sector alone loh...!!

Thus it is not too far fetched Rm 3.0 to Rm 5.0 billion will be achievable in the next 3 yrs and 3 mths.
it is best advise to u buy hold & lock up sapnrg for at least next 3 yrs for max share gain loh....!!

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« Reply #12789 on: March 17, 2019, 01:43:34 PM »
If u know what u r doing, it is investment mah.....!!

Posted by stockraider > Mar 15, 2019 11:17 AM | Report Abuse X

Ask yourself do u want to be simply trying to be moderate when u r really cocksure of surewin leh ??

Yes why u want to waste time and indulge in the academic of plus & minus....when behind our head already calculated big big very explosive surewin coming mah....!!

Just rush & get the ball quickly and play mah....!!

Posted by stockraider > Mar 15, 2019 10:48 AM | Report Abuse X

I leave it to u to see after 3 yrs and 3 mths...i reiterate my well intention here loh....!!

1. THE CALL TO BUY SAPNRG AT RM 0.30 TO RM 0.35 ARE DESIGNED TO GIVE U MAX PROFITS TO U...IF U FOLLOW RAIDER'S INVESTMENT GUIDELINE wholeheartedly LOH..!!
THERE ARE NO FLAWS AND NOT TOO OPTIMISTIC LOH...!!
WHY LEH ??
THIS IS BCOS RAIDER MAKE A CALL ONLY A FEW MONTHS AFTER THE TURNAROUND FACTORS OF SAPNRG BECOME VISIBLE AND SAPNRG SHARE PRICE IS STILL UNDERVALUE WITH HUGE MARGIN OF SAFETY MAH...!!

2. RAIDER IS COMPLETELY HONEST WITH U LOH...AND GIVE U the MAX OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A KILLING ON SAPNRG, UNLIKE PEOPLE LIKE PHILIP AND 3iii AFTER BUYING QL AND NESTLE FOR MORE THAN 10 YRS...COME TO PROMOTE TO U WITH NO MARGIN OF SAFETY AND OVERVALUE WITH PE MORE THAN 50X after 10 yrs when there are no more exceptional margin mah!.

3. RAIDER JUST WANT U TO BE veli RICH, AND SHARE THE huge BOUNTY of sapnrg WITH RAIDER together, BCOS I M A VERY GENEROUS PERSON...IF I GET VERY RICH ALONE...I FEEL VERY LONELY LOH......!!

Posted by qqq3 > Mar 15, 2019 11:39 AM | Report Abuse

Investing is participating in the growth of good quality companies. By definition, all speculations / trading is playing the game of musical chairs. See who holds the stick when the music stops.


As for Dayang and Perdana, they have very weak Balance Sheets. A restructuring is imminent. Its who holds the stick when the music stops. And who takes the risk and make money while the game is on.


Posted by qqq3 > Mar 15, 2019 12:26 PM | Report Abuse

lets look at sapura and see whether it is investing or speculations....

its predictability, no nasty surprises, understandability, understood, quality of management, quality of business.....all low to average....

Sapura is a speculation/ trading at best, not a good proper investment opportunity.

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« Reply #12790 on: March 17, 2019, 01:45:38 PM »
WHICH ONE U PREFER IN YOUR QUEST FOR SUCCESSFUL INVESTMENT WEALTH BUILDING ???

BUY NOW THE SHARE TODAY AND LIMIT UP TOMORROW COMPARE TO BUY THE SHARE TODAY AND UP O.5 SEN TO 2 SEN UP EVERYDAY FOR THE NEXT 200 DAYS LEH ??

RAIDER WOULD CHOSE THE LATTER ?? WHY LEH ??

A} IF U BUY TODAY UP TOMORROW ....YES U MAKE FAST MONIES....BUT CAN U BUILD WEALTH....NOT REALLY LOH...!!
1. IT UP SO FAST DO U HAVE TIME TO BUILD BIG POSITION LEH ?
2. DO U DARE DARE TO BUY BIG BIG...FAST FAST.. WITHOUT INSIDER INFO LEH ?? USUALLY NO NO LOH.....!!
3. THUS LIMIT UP IS ONLY FOR SOONG SOONG PLAY...NOT REALLY SERIOUS MANY MAKING WEALTH BUILDING LOH....!!

B} ON THE OTHER HAND....U SELECTED A GOOD STOCK SLOWLY ACCUMULATE BIG POSITION OVER 3 TO 4 MTHS....U WILL MAKE VERY VERY BIG RETURN LOH...!!

SAPNRG IS THAT KIND OF STOCK THAT WILL MAKE U VERY RICH AS IT GIVE TIME FOR U TO ACCUMULATE LOH....!!

Posted by stockraider > Mar 14, 2019 09:16 PM | Report Abuse X

SAPNRG IS CREEPING UP O.5 TO 2.0 SEN ALMOST EVERYDAY, NOW IT IS UP TO RM 0.35 MAH.....!!

SO HOW LONG MUST U WAIT OR HOW LONG MUST U HOLD THIS VERY UNDERVALUE SAPNRG STOCK LEH ??

TO ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION PLEASE LISTEN TO JON CHIVO LEARNED ADVICE HERE MAH......!!

"Despite the irrationality of their participants, their diversity ensures that they are all irrational in different directions, giving a net effect of zero, allowing the wisdom of crowds to prevail over the long term.
This ensures that the market is efficient and accurate most of the time. This means that over the long term, movements in share prices are usually in line with movement in earnings.

However, this diversity can often undergo phase transition, and thus result in boom or bust in the short term. What is a phase transition? This is where small incremental changes in causes lead to large-scale effects, or the “Grand Ah-Whoom!” moment.

What is this Grand Ah-Whoom! moment?
Imagine this. Put a tray of water into your freezer and the temperature drops to the threshold of freezing. The water remains a liquid until—ah-whoom—it suddenly turns into ice. Just a small incremental change in temperature leads to a change from liquid to solid.

The Grand Ah-Whoom! moment, occurs in many complex systems where collective behavior emerges from the interaction of its constituent parts. And this includes the behavior of the stock market.
In complex systems with human beings like the stock market, diversity is the most likely condition to fail first.


TAKE NOTE OF THIS POINT

As you slowly remove diversity, nothing happens initially. Additional reductions may also have no effect. But at a certain critical point, a small incremental reduction causes the system to change qualitatively."

THIS MEANS U NEED TO HOLD UNTIL INFLEXION POINT WHERE THE VERY UNDERVALUE SAPNRG SHARE WILL BREAKOUT AND EXPLODE LIKE ATOMIC BOOM UPWARDS LOH.....!!

RAIDER SEE THIS NUCLEAR BOOM WILL LIKELY TO EXPLODE SHARPLY UPWARDS SOMEWHERE RM 0.80 AND WITHIN A VERY SHORT PERIOD....WILL TAKE THE SHARE PRICE THRU THE ROOF OF RM 1.00, RM 2.00 AND RM 3.00 LOH....!!

THIS WILL BE DRIVEN BY EARNINGS OF RM 3.0 TO RM 5.0 BILLION PA LOH....!!

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« Reply #12791 on: March 17, 2019, 01:47:33 PM »
Remember this loh;
U NEED TO HOLD UNTIL INFLEXION POINT WHERE THE VERY UNDERVALUE SAPNRG SHARE WILL BREAKOUT AND EXPLODE LIKE ATOMIC BOOM UPWARDS LOH.....!!

RAIDER SEE THIS NUCLEAR BOOM WILL LIKELY TO EXPLODE SHARPLY UPWARDS SOMEWHERE RM 0.80 AND WITHIN A VERY SHORT PERIOD....WILL TAKE THE SHARE PRICE THRU THE ROOF OF RM 1.00, RM 2.00 AND RM 3.00 LOH....!!

THIS WILL BE DRIVEN BY EARNINGS OF RM 3.0 TO RM 5.0 BILLION PA LOH....!!

This analyst don understand do not understand the art of longterm super growth turnaround investment

KUALA LUMPUR: AmInvestment Research upgraded its call on Sapura Energy
image: https://cdn.thestar.com.my/Themes/img/chart.png

(Sapura) to Buy from Hold with a higher fair value of 50 sen a share from an earlier 30 sen.

The research house said on Friday this was based on a lower 30% discount to its estimated diluted book value of 72 sen a share, following the completion of its RM4bil rights issue.

“Our earlier concerns on the 18.5% undersubscription or 1.8 billion ordinary shares out of the RM3bil rights shares issued at 30 sen a share on a five-for-three basis have been alleviated as the underwriters Maybank Investment Bank, CIMB Investment Bank and RHB Investment Bank have completely disposed of the shares without causing any significant price swings,” it said in a research note.

It had also become more confident of Sapura’s improving earnings prospects which currently stems overseas, principally in the Middle East, Brazil, Gulf of Mexico and West Africa.

It pointed out the company was selected as one of Saudi Aramco's four new long-term agreement programme contractors late last year. Hence, substantive order book expansions are still likely from
Sapura's current tender book of US$8.5bil with prospective bids of US$14.3bil.

AmInvest Research said there were highlighted in Sapura’s new orders worth RM9.3bil for FY19 to date, which translate to 2.3 times the RM2.8bil jobs clinched in FY18 and an outstanding order book of RM17.7bil – three times FY20F revenues.

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« Reply #12792 on: March 17, 2019, 01:49:01 PM »
WHICH ONE U PREFER IN YOUR QUEST FOR SUCCESSFUL INVESTMENT WEALTH BUILDING ???

BUY NOW THE SHARE TODAY AND LIMIT UP TOMORROW COMPARE TO BUY THE SHARE TODAY AND UP O.5 SEN TO 2 SEN UP EVERYDAY FOR THE NEXT 200 DAYS LEH ??

RAIDER WOULD CHOSE THE LATTER ?? WHY LEH ??

A} IF U BUY TODAY UP TOMORROW ....YES U MAKE FAST MONIES....BUT CAN U BUILD WEALTH....NOT REALLY LOH...!!
1. IT UP SO FAST DO U HAVE TIME TO BUILD BIG POSITION LEH ?
2. DO U DARE DARE TO BUY BIG BIG...FAST FAST.. WITHOUT INSIDER INFO LEH ?? USUALLY NO NO LOH.....!!
3. THUS LIMIT UP IS ONLY FOR SOONG SOONG PLAY...NOT REALLY SERIOUS MANY MAKING WEALTH BUILDING LOH....!!

B} ON THE OTHER HAND....U SELECTED A GOOD STOCK SLOWLY ACCUMULATE BIG POSITION OVER 3 TO 4 MTHS....U WILL MAKE VERY VERY BIG RETURN LOH...!!

SAPNRG IS THAT KIND OF STOCK THAT WILL MAKE U VERY RICH AS IT GIVE TIME FOR U TO ACCUMULATE LOH....!!

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SAPNRG IS CREEPING UP O.5 TO 2.0 SEN ALMOST EVERYDAY, NOW IT IS UP TO RM 0.35 MAH.....!!

SO HOW LONG MUST U WAIT OR HOW LONG MUST U HOLD THIS VERY UNDERVALUE SAPNRG STOCK LEH ??

TO ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION PLEASE LISTEN TO JON CHIVO LEARNED ADVICE HERE MAH......!!

"Despite the irrationality of their participants, their diversity ensures that they are all irrational in different directions, giving a net effect of zero, allowing the wisdom of crowds to prevail over the long term.
This ensures that the market is efficient and accurate most of the time. This means that over the long term, movements in share prices are usually in line with movement in earnings.

However, this diversity can often undergo phase transition, and thus result in boom or bust in the short term. What is a phase transition? This is where small incremental changes in causes lead to large-scale effects, or the “Grand Ah-Whoom!” moment.

What is this Grand Ah-Whoom! moment?
Imagine this. Put a tray of water into your freezer and the temperature drops to the threshold of freezing. The water remains a liquid until—ah-whoom—it suddenly turns into ice. Just a small incremental change in temperature leads to a change from liquid to solid.

The Grand Ah-Whoom! moment, occurs in many complex systems where collective behavior emerges from the interaction of its constituent parts. And this includes the behavior of the stock market.
In complex systems with human beings like the stock market, diversity is the most likely condition to fail first.


TAKE NOTE OF THIS POINT

As you slowly remove diversity, nothing happens initially. Additional reductions may also have no effect. But at a certain critical point, a small incremental reduction causes the system to change qualitatively."

THIS MEANS U NEED TO HOLD UNTIL INFLEXION POINT WHERE THE VERY UNDERVALUE SAPNRG SHARE WILL BREAKOUT AND EXPLODE LIKE ATOMIC BOOM UPWARDS LOH.....!!

RAIDER SEE THIS NUCLEAR BOOM WILL LIKELY TO EXPLODE SHARPLY UPWARDS SOMEWHERE RM 0.80 AND WITHIN A VERY SHORT PERIOD....WILL TAKE THE SHARE PRICE THRU THE ROOF OF RM 1.00, RM 2.00 AND RM 3.00 LOH....!!

THIS WILL BE DRIVEN BY EARNINGS OF RM 3.0 TO RM 5.0 BILLION PA LOH....!!

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« Reply #12793 on: March 17, 2019, 01:51:17 PM »
All oil and gas stocks will eventually go higher

Only those hobbled by high debt and insolvency might take longer time.
A few gone case might not make it

So stay very safe in those with clean balance sheet and those back by huge injection of cash funds from large institution like sapnrg and velesto mah...!!

Raider best choice SAPNRG is very clean and very safe

Can buy

Lock it away

Come back 3 year later

AND surprise!!

SAPNRG might go over Rm3.00....the biggest stock gain in your lifetime loh......!!

Please don missed this wonderful opportunity mah....!!

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« Reply #12794 on: March 17, 2019, 01:52:18 PM »
REMEMBER THIS VERY IMPORTANT ADVICE FOR YOUR SUCCESSFUL FORAY TO HUGE MARKET GAIN THAT U NEVER HEARD OF LOH....!!

STAY ON COURSE IS VERY IMPORTANT MAH....!!

RAIDER COMMENT;

U SEE LAH....WHEN U R INVESTING RM 0.34 AND EXPECTING TP RM 3.00 WITHIN 3 YRS, WHY DO U BOTHER WITH THE TRIVIAL ISSUE ABOVE LEH ??
U R NOT GOING TO SETTLE FOR TINY TRADING PROFIT MAH....!!

U JUST BUY & HOLD AND WIN VERY VERY BIG OVER 3 YRS MAH....!!

BE ON GUARD ON THIS TRIVIAL AND UNPRODUCTIVE ISSUE THAT WILL DISTRACT U FROM MAKING A MAJOR KILLING IN INVESTMENT, THAT U HAVE NEVER DREAM OR IMAGINE B4 MAH.....!!

JUST REMEMBER THERE ARE STILL HUGE PROFIT MAKING OPPORTUNITY COMING YOUR WAY MAH......!!

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Raider has been talking about explosive bulls coming loh...!!

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« Reply #12795 on: March 17, 2019, 01:53:11 PM »
THE BULLISH POINT TODAY BRENT STRONGLY UP USD 68 TODAY LOH....!!

THAT MEANS GREAT NEWS FOR SAPNRG...!!

SAPNRG HAS NOT GONE UP ALOT THERE ARE PLENTY MORE ROOM TO SURGE UP LOH...!!

Posted by stockraider > Mar 13, 2019 11:39 PM | Report Abuse X

Study carefully...sapnrg is value, contraian, turnaround, growth investment all in one play mah....!!

It can be value investment & but it can cover in even more....but most important it has very big margin of safety loh...!!

It is sure make monies play loh....!!

DO NOT DESPAIR IF SAPNRG JUST SHOOT UP LOH...!!

REMEMBER THIS LOH...!!

"No problem loh....out of 100 people only 1 person really make monies on sapnrg mah.....!!

Sapnrg long way to go ....the coming turnaround will be very strong loh...!!"

LOOKING AT THE ABOVE FACT ARE U NOT CONVINCE AND CONFIDENT TO JUMP IN WITHOUT HESITATION LEH ??

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« Reply #12796 on: March 17, 2019, 01:54:29 PM »
THE BEST INVESTMENT STRATEGY IS THAT U BET WITH LOW RISK AND WITH VERY HIGH POTENTIAL RETURN LOH.....!!

SAPNRG IS THE BEST PICK BCOS IT MAKE ITS OWN FUTURE MAH....!!

WHY LEH ??

1. SAPNRG HAS OIL EQUIPMENT N MACHINE WHICH CAN DO VERY COMPLICATED JOBS, IT IS THIS REASONS IT HAS RM 19 BILLION CONTRACT IN HAND TODATE AND THIS IS BASING ON ONLY 50% OF ITS CAPACITY UTILIZATION LOH...!!
SAPNRG STILL HAS BALANCE CAPACITY TO TAKE UP ANOTHER RM 20 BILLION MORE JOBS LOH.......!!

2. UNLIKE OTHER OIL & GAS COMPANY SAPNRG IS ACTUALLY A MINI PETRONAS...BESIDE IT CAN DO SERVICES AND CONTRACT, IT HAS ITS OWN MANY OIL FIELDS THAT IS VERY RICH IN DEPOSITS AND CAN CONTRIBUTE STRAIGHT TO SAPNRG BOTTOM LINE AND GROWTH VERY QUICKLY....THRU ANYTIME INCREASING ITS OIL EXTRACTION... VERY QUICKLY IS NOT A PROBLEM

3. IT IS EXPECTED SAPNRG OWN INTERNAL OIL FIELD WORKS CAN CONTRIBUTE AT LEAST RM 4 BILLION OF CONTRACTS TO SAPNRG PA....THATS THE REASONS WHY RAIDER SAYS SAPNRG...ORDER BOOKS IS INCREASING AND GROWING EVERYDAY AND MINUTES, BCOS OF THIS OWN INTERNAL WORKS THAT CAN FLOW IN ANYTIME LOH....!!

THE BOOMING OIL CONDITIONS WILL KICK START SAPNRG RECOVERY FROM BEING A PENNY STOCKS OF RM 0.34 TO ITS RIGHTFUL ORIGINAL POSITION OF A PRECIOUS BLUECHIPS AT RM 3.00 GIVING IT MKT CAP OF RM 70 BILLION LOH...!!

SAPNRG HAVE THE FOLLOWING MOST IMPORTANT ALLIES LOH...!!

1. PETRONAS ...THEY HAS AWARDED THE MOST CONTRACT TO SAPNRG COMPARE TO ANY OTHER OIL & GAS LISTED CO IN MSIA.

2. OMV ITS REPUTABLE JOINT VENTURE PARTNER..THAT INVOLVE WITH HUGE OIL EXTRACTION AND OILFIELD RESERVES ENHANCEMENT ASSETS...THAT WILL INCREASE ITS REVENUE AND REDUCE THE COST OF PER BARREL OF OIL LOH...!!

3.PNB WHICH PROVIDE CORPORATE ADVISORY, FUNDING REQUIREMENT AND GOOD CORPORATE GOVERNANCE, THUS SAFEGUARDING THE MINORITY SHAREHOLDERS.

WITH THIS IN PLACE WE ARE PRETTY SURE & SAFE THAT SAPNRG WILL GROW EXPONENTIALLY AND SUSTAINABLY...THATS WHY RAIDER SAYS ALL OUT SAILANG ON SAPNRG, WHEN IT IS VERY CHEAP MAH....!!

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« Reply #12797 on: March 17, 2019, 01:55:46 PM »
WITH OVER RM 19.3 billion JOB AWARDS ALREADY IN THE BAG OF SAPNRG AND WITH BIG OIL WELL GOING TO GO FULL BLAST ON OIL & GAS EXTRACTION, WHAT U WILL SEE EXPLOSIVE GROWTH IN SAPNRG STOCK PRICE COMING LOH! .

AND WITH BRIGHTEST PROSPECT EVER ENTERING INTO YEAR 2020 WHERE PETRONAS ALREADY STATED THE INCREASE OF OIL RIG FROM 15 TO 25 OR 29 (UP 40% TO 93%)

SAPNRG IS AT THE VERY OUTBREAK OF VERY VERY POWERFUL EARNINGS GROWTH.

Today the last of those who got the underwritten IB share disposal of sapnrg shares from the underwriter bank..plus all the stale holders

ONCE CLEARED SAPNRG CROSS 40 SEN AND NO LOOKING BACK Anymore loh..!! Good time are here to stay loh...!!

WHAT YOU ALL SHOULD DO ?

1) BUY AS MUCH AS YOU CAN WHILE YOU CAN GET BELOW 33 SEN.

2) SELL OTHER OVERVALUED STOCKS LIKE DAYANG AND SWITCH TO SAPNRG
SELL MFLOUR AND SELL IFCA ALSO. SELL ALL OTHERS WHICH YOU THINK CANNOT GIVE YOU 100% PROFIT AND BUY SAPNRG

3) SELL & CLEAR DEAD STOCKS (CUTLOSS NOW) BUY AND MAKE BACK FROM Sapnrg.

REMEMBER:

ONE POSITIVE POWERFUL BULL OF BULLS STOCK LIKE Sapnrg WILL MAKE UP FOR YOUR OTHER LOSSES IN BAD STOCK!!!

DO IT AND DO IT NOW!!

Do it fast b4 too late to profit the most loh....!!

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Re: RAIDER IS THE BIGGEST BULL IN INVESTLAH LOH!
« Reply #12798 on: March 17, 2019, 01:56:30 PM »
Petronas already mandated by Malaysia Govt to award projects in Malaysian waters to Only Malaysian Companies.

So Armada being world player will be left out

Plus high debt drag it down

Sapnrg is free as a bird...not only get Petronas contract but also Aramco and shell contract loh...!!

AND will get lion shares of job awards

In addition SAPNRG is going all out to ramp up oil and gas production with its join venture highly sophiscated oil & gas mat salleh partner ramping up production is not a problem mah...!!

U will be seeing highly explosive growth that u have not seen for decades and some in your lifetime loh...!!

So Earnings Growth will show very very strongly in Sapnrg in coming months

Best course of action is sell armada. Sell all of your other stocks that u r reluctant to part with...!!

All SAPU sapnrg kaw kaw

So listen listen listen

Don't be sidetracked by armada, dayang, penergy,naim going nowhere later

Go sell all those overvalue O&G counters just sailang or buy sapnrg kaw kaw loh...!

Posted by stockraider > Mar 12, 2019 06:07 PM | Report Abuse X

16 billion shares with conversion expected conversion will surpass 26 billion shares at Rm 3.00 means it will exceed or quite close to Pchem mkt cap of Rm 74 billion loh.....!!

Not impossible...has exceeded rm 50 billion mkt cap b4 mah....!!

In 3 yrs time profit expected to be Rm 3 to 6 billion mah...!!

Posted by stockraider > Mar 12, 2019 06:12 PM | Report Abuse X

Betul punya loh...i got insider tip mah....!!

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Re: RAIDER IS THE BIGGEST BULL IN INVESTLAH LOH!
« Reply #12799 on: March 17, 2019, 01:57:09 PM »
THESE ARE SOME VERY GOOD TURNING POINTS FOR Sapnrg

1) PETRONAS HAS INCREASED UPSTREAM EXPENSE FROM RM11.5 BILLIONS (2018) TO RM15 BILLIONS (2019) THIS YEAR

That means that there will be EXTRA 30% CASH INFUSION INTO UPSTREAM O&G ACTIVITIES

CARIMIN, DAYANG, PENERGY, BINTULU PORT HAVE SEEN INCREASING REVENUES DUE TO O&G ACTIVITIES FOR YEAR 2018. AND GOING INTO YEAR 2019 IT WILL SEE EVEN MORE ACTIVITIES

All Due to these Factors

2)) Brent Crude Price has gone back up above USD65.00 per barrel

SO IT IS VIABLE TO EXTRACT MORE OIL

3) Govt wants more Dividend from Petronas (Currently Petronas gave Rm24 Billions usual dividend PLUS A Special Dividends of RM30 Billions = Total Rm54 BILLIONS)

4) RAPID REFINERY In Completion also require EXTRA 54.7 MILLION BARRELS OF CRUDE YEARLY
So all these Converging Factors Have Fired Up O&G Stocks

5) Sapuranrg HAS RECEIVED 6 JOB AWARDS SINCE YEAR 2018

Making a Very Good Track Record of securing over Rm 5 Billion Ringgit Revenue for Year 2018 & 2019
And More Jobs going into Year 2019 as PETRONAS IS STEPPING UP OIL EXPLORATION.
At the moment sapnrg got rm 16 billion order books in hand.

6) SEEING SUCH GOOD PROSPECTS PNB BUMI HAS BOUGHT More sapnrg raising their stake from 12% to 48% injecting about Rm 2 billion loh...!!

7) ALTHOUGH Sapnrg HAS 16 BILLION SHARES ITS TOP 30 HOLDERS ARE AMANAH SAHAM BUMI, PNB & TOP LOCAL & FOREIGN FUNDS
80% ARE OWNED BY THESE STRONG HOLDERS.
Only 4 billion shares are in freefloat.

8) SINCE PENERGY, CARIMIN & DAYANG HAVE ALREADY RUN UP SO MUCH IN PRICE IT IS A WISE STRATEGY TO TAKE SOME PROFITS IN THESE & BUY SOME LAGGARD Sapnrg.

9) Sapnrg COULD BE ANOTHER DAYANG OR A HIDDEN GEM...raider has estimated it overtake Pchem mkt capitalization in 3 yrs time loh..!!

10) JUST LIKE NAIM WAS SOLD DOWN TO 45 SEN AFTER CAPITAL EXERCISE Sapnrg HAS ALSO BEEN SOLD DOWN TO ONLY 23.5 SEN (DUE TO CAPITAL EXERCISE RECENTLY)

11) Don forget on their oil field Sapnrg already ramping up its production volume and with oil price above usd 65m...u ask yourself how much sapnrg can make loh ??

Share just like NAIM AT 50 SEN. NAIM REACHED RM1.00 FOR 100% UPSIDE RECENTLY

SO Sapnrg IS NOW 33.5 SEN

WHAT IS THE TARGET PRICE FOR Sapnrg?

Raider HAS A 3 YEAR AND 3 MTHS TARGET PRICE FOR Sapnrg AT RM 3.00 loh...!!