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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2012, 01:21:17 PM »
I think you are more happy to impose personal standards on everyone.

It is sad that you feel likewise.
I am expressing an opinion.
Of course, don't expect opinions to be in agreement all the time.

What do you learn in CFA?
Do they teach communication skills? :)
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2012, 01:22:04 PM »
Can you imagine after all these years of forum interaction, we still don't know what's iiinvestsmart's occupation?
ex banker....doing own business hehe
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« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2012, 01:25:45 PM »
What do I learn from others and myself?

1.  Their investing/trading/gambling philosophy and strategy.
2.  Their financial knowledge and education.
3.  Their level of effort in their investing/trading/gambling.
4.  Their honesty, integrity, mood, allure, temperament, etc.
5.  Their risk tolerance, financial capacity, investment objectives and investing time horizon.
6.  Their age.
7.  Their willingness to share, openness, deviousness, etc.
8.  Their intentions.
9.  Their help in making or losing in this game.

You can add in a lot more.   :) :thumbsup: :clap: :cash: :cash: :cash:
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2012, 01:27:00 PM »
It is sad that you feel likewise.
I am expressing an opinion.
Of course, don't expect opinions to be in agreement all the time.

What do you learn in CFA?
Do they teach communication skills? :)

They teach far more than you know anything about investing.
It is a mystery to me that a ****** fan never apply for the program.
I wonder why... ???

And I find your learning skill is quite bad, reflected by the fact that many things that you've said got refuted over and over again but you still hold on to your flawed understandings.  :shake: :shake: :shake:
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2012, 01:28:43 PM »
What do I learn from others and myself?

1.  Their investing/trading/gambling philosophy and strategy.
2.  Their financial knowledge and education.
3.  Their level of effort in their investing/trading/gambling.
4.  Their honesty, integrity, mood, allure, temperament, etc.
5.  Their risk tolerance, financial capacity, investment objectives and investing time horizon.
6.  Their age.
7.  Their willingness to share, openness, deviousness, etc.
8.  Their intentions.
9.  Their help in making or losing in this game.

You can add in a lot more.   :) :thumbsup: :clap: :cash: :cash: :cash:
well said.....but i hadly got the time to learn all that cos learnt it already by my own trading
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2012, 01:30:20 PM »
They teach far more than you know anything about investing.
It is a mystery to me that a ****** fan never apply for the program.
I wonder why... ???

And I find your learning skill is quite bad, reflected by the fact that many things that you've said got refuted over and over again but you still hold on to your flawed understandings.  :shake: :shake: :shake:

I noticed that business students learned a lot more than is necessary.  Then they missed the more important lessons for investing.
They end up doing day trading and option trading.   :D :D :D :D :D :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash:
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1.  Understand the business
2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

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« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2012, 01:33:05 PM »
well said.....but i hadly got the time to learn all that cos learnt it already by my own trading

Develop your own philosophy and strategy.
You can then benchmark this to the other many philosophy and strategy.
Be a student and life long learner.
Be courageous to adopt or to modify.
Be brave to unlearn and relearn. 


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I just love investing ....  :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash:

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1.  Understand the business
2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2012, 01:37:22 PM »
I noticed that business students learned a lot more than is necessary.  Then they missed the more important lessons for investing.
They end up doing day trading and option trading.   :D :D :D :D :D :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash:

Truly, this response of yours is another evidence that reflect your lack of understanding skills.
There are many CFA designated people (not me) who invest in their own way.
Some are proficiently in fundamental analysis that they short the market and earn super big.
Some others use computer to do the rotation and can time market moves and earn consistent return too.
Please open up your mind and go register for the program.
You absolutely have no idea.

There are even people without any investing skills but can program HFT programs and earn consistent profits every month trading millions times a day.
You absolutely have no idea.

I am not saying the program is great or anyone is better.
My main point is, if you keep holding on to your flawed thesis, nobody will learn anything new.
And all future arguments will end up a big waste of time, as nobody will be convinced.
Of course newbies will be thrilled while still fresh, but that's a different issue.
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« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2012, 01:41:34 PM »
I noticed that business students learned a lot more than is necessary.  Then they missed the more important lessons for investing.
They end up doing day trading and option trading.   :D :D :D :D :D :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash:
i like to disagree with u on this point.....take me for an example
I do not invest in the stock mkt for a variety of reasons
1. i may not have the money
2. the risk factor is too high at this point in time
3. i trade cos i enjoy trading
4. i trade cos i see money weekly
5. i trade cos i need the money weekly
6. i trade cos this is a skill i am good at.
7. i trade all shares irrespective of the fundamentals cos this mkt allows me to do that
8. i trade cos many rumours are abound in this mkt....i take advantage of that
9. i trade cos mkt players here trade with emotions where as i can profit on that
10. i trade cos people are scared to sell when they made a mistake....they live on hope & prayer & i do not...hence i can make some money
and many more
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2012, 01:41:53 PM »
Develop your own philosophy and strategy.
You can then benchmark this to the other many philosophy and strategy.
Be a student and life long learner.
Be courageous to adopt or to modify.
Be brave to unlearn and relearn. 

You may not agree with yourself.
You don't seem to accept other people's own trading/investing approach other than your own ******-styled approach.
You don't seem like you're learning more than you try to impose personal standards on others.
You don't show that you're adaptable or flexible - you're the same as always since last time.
To unlearn and relearn? What exactly have you unlearned and relearned? Please give examples, as I am willing to learn.  :)
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #60 on: April 25, 2012, 01:49:19 PM »
I noticed that business students learned a lot more than is necessary.  Then they missed the more important lessons for investing.
They end up doing day trading and option trading.   :D :D :D :D :D :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash: :cash:

Go and attend my open class with a truly open mind.
Question everything I wrote in the thread on your own, critically and without bias.
Then you'll really learn, not imposing personal standards on others.
You can see nobody is imposing their standards on you.
So why should you on others?  :)
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« Reply #61 on: April 25, 2012, 03:25:58 PM »
i like to disagree with u on this point.....take me for an example
I do not invest in the stock mkt for a variety of reasons
1. i may not have the money
2. the risk factor is too high at this point in time
3. i trade cos i enjoy trading
4. i trade cos i see money weekly
5. i trade cos i need the money weekly
6. i trade cos this is a skill i am good at.
7. i trade all shares irrespective of the fundamentals cos this mkt allows me to do that
8. i trade cos many rumours are abound in this mkt....i take advantage of that
9. i trade cos mkt players here trade with emotions where as i can profit on that
10. i trade cos people are scared to sell when they made a mistake....they live on hope & prayer & i do not...hence i can make some money
and many more

I wish you lots of good luck. 

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1.  Understand the business
2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2012, 03:30:04 PM »
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Imagine an empty glass.
Put in 1 amoeba.
This amoeba multiplies every 1 second.
At the end of the 1 hour, the glass is filled to the brim with amoebae.
How long does it take for the glass to be half full of amoebae?


Your answer:  ________


That is compounding at work, the amoeba way of investing.   :)


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4.  Buy at a sensible price

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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2012, 03:32:45 PM »
10. i trade cos people are scared to sell when they made a mistake....they live on hope & prayer & i do not...hence i can make some money
and many more

does that mean your account also gives you the right to do naked short, like selling what you don't have?
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« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2012, 03:33:39 PM »
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Imagine an empty glass.
Put in 1 amoeba.
This amoeba multiplies every 1 second.
At the end of the 1 hour, the glass is filled to the brim with amoebae.
How long does it take for the glass to be half full of amoebae?


Your answer:  ________


That is compounding at work, the amoeba way of investing.   :)


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that amoeba multiplies by 2x, not 15% a year.
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2012, 03:33:57 PM »
I thought you all should have realised by now that there is something wrong with the fella......  :speechless:

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« Reply #66 on: April 25, 2012, 03:36:20 PM »
I thought you all should have realised by now that there is something wrong with the fella......  :speechless:

which fella?
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« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2012, 03:37:19 PM »
Wow :D

You have to make it so obvious issit?

No, it is not you. :P

which fella?

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« Reply #68 on: April 25, 2012, 03:44:36 PM »

i like to disagree with u on this point.....take me for an example
I do not invest in the stock mkt for a variety of reasons
1. i may not have the money

You do not need to have a lot of money to invest.  A young man has saved $1,000 a month and now has $20,000 in savings since he started work.  It is sheer discipline to put some money away in savings and not to touch these whatever the circumstances.

2. the risk factor is too high at this point in time

You will always find an undervalue stock in any market.  It is just easier to find these in a down market.

3. i trade cos i enjoy trading

Can't respond to this logically.  Something that is in-built presumably.  Some loves to gamble too, and can't stop.  Pity their families.

4. i trade cos i see money weekly

Mental accounting bias.  Money in savings and long term investments are still money.  No difference where the money is being transacted, I think.

5. i trade cos i need the money weekly

Sometimes, you will go without your daily bread, presumably... especially when the trade did not deliver the bread.

6. i trade cos this is a skill i am good at.

Very interesting.  As long as your confidence bias is on firm grounds and not build on quick sands.

7. i trade all shares irrespective of the fundamentals cos this mkt allows me to do that

Wonderful.  It is traders who provide the liquidity for the stock.  Those smarter investors love this too.

8. i trade cos many rumours are abound in this mkt....i take advantage of that

To take advantage of these, assumes that you will not be taken advantage of.  Well, I can't comment further on this.

9. i trade cos mkt players here trade with emotions where as i can profit on that

Brilliant.  Hoping to profit from the emotional mistakes of others.  Hoping to profit from the crowd or herd of which he is an integral component of.

10. i trade cos people are scared to sell when they made a mistake....they live on hope & prayer & i do not...hence i can make some money and many more

Having superior skills that take advantage of the herd mentality.  How wonderful?  Why then are you still trading ... you should already be very rich by now?  Only a few doubling will do the trick?   Do read my Amoeba compounding in investing article to understand the power of compounding.  




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3.  Management with integrity
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« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2012, 03:50:36 PM »
I thought you all should have realised by now that there is something wrong with the fella......  :speechless:

Welcome aboard.
You are now another subject of interest in my observation sample.   :handshake: :cash: :)

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2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

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« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2012, 03:50:55 PM »
i like to disagree with u on this point.....take me for an example
I do not invest in the stock mkt for a variety of reasons
1. i may not have the money

You do not need to have a lot of money to invest.  A young man has saved $1,000 a month and now has $20,000 in savings since he started work.  It is sheer discipline to put some money away in savings and not to touch these whatever the circumstances.

2. the risk factor is too high at this point in time

You will always find an undervalue stock in any market.  It is just easier to find these in a down market.

3. i trade cos i enjoy trading

Can't respond to this logically.  Something that is in-built presumably.  Some loves to gamble too, and can't stop.  Pity their families.

4. i trade cos i see money weekly

Mental accounting bias.  Money in savings and long term investments are still money.  No difference where the money is being transacted, I think.

5. i trade cos i need the money weekly

Sometimes, you will go without your daily bread, presumably... especially when the trade did not deliver the bread.

6. i trade cos this is a skill i am good at.

Very interesting.  As long as your confidence bias is on firm grounds and not build on quick sands.

7. i trade all shares irrespective of the fundamentals cos this mkt allows me to do that

Wonderful.  It is traders who provide the liquidity for the stock.  Those smarter investors love this too.

8. i trade cos many rumours are abound in this mkt....i take advantage of that

To take advantage of these, assumes that you will not be taken advantage of.  Well, I can't comment further on this.

9. i trade cos mkt players here trade with emotions where as i can profit on that

Brilliant.  Hoping to profit from the emotional mistakes of others.  Hoping to profit from the crowd or herd of which he is an integral component of.

10. i trade cos people are scared to sell when they made a mistake....they live on hope & prayer & i do not...hence i can make some money and many more

Having superior skills that take advantage of the herd mentality.  How wonderful?  Why then are you still trading ... you should already be very rich by now?  Only a few doubling will do the trick?   Do read my Amoeba compounding in investing article to understand the power of compounding.  




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I would like to ask everyone...
Is this sharing or imposing personal standards?
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2012, 03:52:38 PM »
Leave it lah.  A person who is above god and walks on water is what leh?

I would like to ask everyone...
Is this sharing or imposing personal standards?

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« Reply #72 on: April 25, 2012, 03:54:16 PM »
I would like to ask everyone...
Is this sharing or imposing personal standards?

This is giving my personal opinion.  There are always two sides to any discussion.
Dorky, you should be smarter than to not know this.
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« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2012, 03:56:24 PM »
I would like to ask everyone...
Is this sharing or imposing personal standards?

I believe these are also the views expressed by Benjamin Graham in his book, the Intelligent Investor. 
Correct me if I am wrong in saying so.   :)
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« Reply #74 on: April 25, 2012, 03:56:46 PM »
This is giving my personal opinion.  There are always two sides to any discussion.
Dorky, you should be smarter than to not know this.

Sure, and you happen to give lots of personal opinion than sharing.
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« Reply #75 on: April 25, 2012, 03:57:22 PM »
@ jet

does that mean your account also gives you the right to do naked short, like selling what you don't have?
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« Reply #76 on: April 25, 2012, 04:00:22 PM »
i like to disagree with u on this point.....take me for an example
I do not invest in the stock mkt for a variety of reasons
1. i may not have the money
2. the risk factor is too high at this point in time
3. i trade cos i enjoy trading
4. i trade cos i see money weekly
5. i trade cos i need the money weekly
6. i trade cos this is a skill i am good at.
7. i trade all shares irrespective of the fundamentals cos this mkt allows me to do that
8. i trade cos many rumours are abound in this mkt....i take advantage of that
9. i trade cos mkt players here trade with emotions where as i can profit on that
10. i trade cos people are scared to sell when they made a mistake....they live on hope & prayer & i do not...hence i can make some money
and many more
thats what i posted on the other thread in case u missed it
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« Reply #77 on: April 25, 2012, 04:08:34 PM »
thats what i posted on the other thread in case u missed it

I assume you can do naked short.
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« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2012, 12:53:35 PM »

 :D


Investing is fun especially when you have a good strategy that is delivering positive returns consistently.  Patience is required to maximise returns.

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« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2012, 05:37:40 PM »
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Imagine an empty glass.
Put in 1 amoeba.
This amoeba multiplies every 1 second.
At the end of the 1 hour, the glass is filled to the brim with amoebae.
How long does it take for the glass to be half full of amoebae?


Your answer:  ________


That is compounding at work, the amoeba way of investing.   :)


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Answer:  ____________________
Itís better to buy a wonderful company at fair price than a fair company at wonderful price.

1.  Understand the business
2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2012, 06:07:14 PM »
Investment is good when you have extra pocket money.  :clap:

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« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2012, 10:02:52 PM »
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Imagine an empty glass.
Put in 1 amoeba.
This amoeba multiplies every 1 second.
At the end of the 1 hour, the glass is filled to the brim with amoebae.
How long does it take for the glass to be half full of amoebae?


Your answer:  ________


That is compounding at work, the amoeba way of investing.   :)


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Answer:  59 minutes 59th second?

Yes,   :thumbsup:

The amoeba way of investing is to highlight the power of compounding. 
At the end of the hour, the glass is totally full of amoebae.
At 59 minutes 59 seconds, the glass is half full of amoebae.
At 59 minutes 58 seconds, the glass is quarter full of amoebae.

The incremental gains in compounding come in the later years of investing ... and these incremental gains are huge.  They are too huge to be ignored.  Did someone said that investing this way is too slow and boring.   ;)

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« Reply #83 on: April 27, 2012, 08:16:16 AM »
Many attended the Nestle AGM.  Most went for the goodies and a fraction stayed behind for the AGM proper.  Anyway, most of the shareholders were happy.  Afterall, Nestle is now the highest price stock in the Bursa Malaysia.

With higher capital expenditure in the pipe line, Nestle is expected to grow its earnings in the future.  Strong brand, great products, good R&D, excellent management, great at keeping cost down (efficiency) and many other great qualities of a great business will ensure that Nestle will continue to grow.

Don't mistake a great company for a great investment.  A great company can be a lousy investment if you pay too high a price for this.  On this note, you should know how to value Nestle.  A company that has been distributing GROWING dividends predictably and sustainably for many years ... almost like a bond ... how should you value Nestle?
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« Reply #84 on: April 27, 2012, 08:18:11 AM »
Friday April 27, 2012

Nestle Malaysia plans major capex investment
BY SHARIDAN M. ALI
SHARIDAN@THESTAR.COM.MY

KUALA LUMPUR: Nestle (M) Bhd's expansion plan for additional capacity at its manufacturing facility in Shah Alam will reflect a significant jump in its capital expenditure (capex) for 2013 and 2014.
Managing director Peter R. Vogt said the company planned quite a sizeable investment to expand its manufacturing facility in Shah Alam.
ďAt the moment our engineering department is working on which production lines should be added and what is the exact size of investment needed,Ē he told reporters after the company's AGM yesterday.
Last year, Nestle Malaysia bought a piece of land adjacent to the company's plant in Shah Alam from British American Tobacco (M) Bhd (BAT) for RM36mil cash.
As for this year's capex, Vogt said it would spend about RM180mil, where a large portion of it would be for the upgrading of equipment.
ďWe are running 80% to 90% of capacity utilisation in many areas of our production thus we need to upgrade a lot of basic equipment,Ē he said.
Asked if Nestle was planning to increase the prices of its products, Vogt said the company had no plan to do so for the time being but was closely monitoring the price movements of commodities.
ďWe are buying forward or hedging certain commodities to minimise the impact of cost spike. We also are continuing with our Nestle Continuous Excellence initiatives, where every year we find new ways to save on cost.
ďThe objective of all these is to maintain the current price as long as we can,Ē he said.
Some of Nestle Malaysia's main raw materials used in its products are coffee, cocoa powder and milk solids.
On new product launches, Vogt said Nestle had strategised to have fewer but good quality product launches that would have long and strong marketability.
ďThe best example is our newest product Nescafe Dolce Gusto Espressomachine where we are planning to expand on its variety of beverages.
ďAnother good example is Milo, which is still strong in the market even after 40 to 50 years,Ē he said.
Asked whether Nestle Malaysia would market Pfizer's baby food products soon following the recent announcement that Nestle SA was acquiring Pfizer's infant nutrition division, Vogt said the transaction would need necessary regulatory approvals that would take six to 12 months.
ďIt's too early to say now how we are going to integrate this new development into Nestle Malaysia,Ē he said.
Despite the many uncertainties that could dampen global economic growth and further drive volatility in commodity costs, Nestle Malaysia on Wednesday announced a good set of financial results.
Its net profit for its first quarter ended March 31 was up 7.5% to RM158.1mil from the same quarter last year.
Turnover for the quarter stood at RM1.16bil, which reflected an 8.5% increase from a year ago.
The growth was driven by both domestic and export sales.
Vogt noted that Nestle Malaysia, which celebrated its 100th anniversary in Malaysia this year, had achieved the highest level rating in the 2011 Creating Shared Value (CSV) report, which accompanied the group's corporate and financial reports.
ďThe report was externally verified by Bureau Veritas Certification for an A+rating in accordance with Global Reporting Initiative 3.0 standards for the food Processing sector,Ē he said.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2012/4/27/business/11184426&sec=business
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #85 on: October 28, 2012, 08:20:02 AM »
Can you imagine after all these years of forum interaction, we still don't know what's iiinvestsmart's occupation?


 :D

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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #86 on: October 28, 2012, 08:30:34 AM »
Both Nestle and Dutch Lady will still be here after we are all long gone and ashes also cannot find.

I have my doubts about Padini.....
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #87 on: October 28, 2012, 08:33:50 AM »
he promoted  geneiva  gold....

most likely  this  dude  is full time quick rich@poor  scheme promoter , now  he  is  trap  ;) :D

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« Reply #88 on: October 28, 2012, 08:38:34 AM »
Both Nestle and Dutch Lady will still be here after we are all long gone and ashes also cannot find.

I have my doubts about Padini.....

Your point is noted and valid.  Padini is in a business that does not have such a strong economic moat as Nestle or Dutch Lady.  It has done well the last 3 years.  Growth has come from SSS and new stores within Malaysia.  It is still expanding into East Malaysia.  Its expansion into overseas market is more challenging.  The recent accounts show that its revenues and pbt is growing and it is generating good free cash flow.  It has little or no debt and its growth is funded through its own earnings.  Yes, this sector is competitive and you will need to monitor its business more carefully than other companies.  

I agree with you.
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« Reply #89 on: October 28, 2012, 08:42:12 AM »
he promoted  geneiva  gold....

most likely  this  dude  is full time quick rich@poor  scheme promoter , now  he  is  trap  ;) :D

I heard of this scam when it appeared in the news.  Never heard of this before then.  I was curious how this scam was carried out and my postings in this forum will show you that I have asked questions to sought answers to.  I think I have a fair idea how this Genneva Gold scheme was carried out.

It is important to understand how the business of a company is carried out.  It is only through this understanding that you can include this company into your circle of competence.  Of course, anything that is too good to be true will almost always turn out to be the case.  It is no different from asking all the relevant and right questions on the companies that you are investing into.   :handshake: :cash:
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #90 on: October 28, 2012, 09:28:27 AM »
iiinvestsmart are you a fun manager? :D

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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #91 on: October 28, 2012, 09:29:22 AM »
what undervalued share you have in mind besides GCB? GCB expansion are financed by debt!

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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #92 on: October 28, 2012, 11:59:26 AM »
In this matter.... Dorky is right....

Day trading is GOOD.

Investment is GOOD.

Programmed trading is GOOD

Penny stocks is GOOD

Warrants is GOOD

but are you sure? really?

The safest is of course INVESTMENT IS GOOD but are you sure? really? For every Dutch Lady and Nestle there is another BUSTED.......so how?

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« Reply #93 on: October 28, 2012, 12:57:51 PM »




I just love investing.   :)
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Re: Can you imagine (iiinvestsmart)...?
« Reply #94 on: October 28, 2012, 03:21:26 PM »
Can you imagine after all these years of forum interaction, we still don't know what's iiinvestsmart's occupation?

he owns businesses.
a business owner.

 ;)
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That's why we just don't hear much about them.

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« Reply #95 on: October 28, 2012, 04:02:04 PM »
If you want to convince everyone to adopt Warren ******'s approach, then you need to disclose more about your own success first, before everyone can be convinced.
Disclosure like what background you were from - poor? middle-class? rich?
What occupation you are doing - janitor? teacher? engineer? architect? lawyer? businessman? tycoon?
At what age you started to invest like ****** - 18? 24? 32? 40? 50?
What age you are now.
Then we will be able to assess how rich you are and whether it is justified to fully adopt ******'s investing approach.
For example, if you are from a middle-class family, then study overseas, then work as architect with around 5 digit salary, invest at very young age (say 24), you are now 40++, and you are barely a millionaire, then it is definitely not convincing.
But for example, if you are from a very poor background, barely survive formal education (luckily supported by 3rd party sponsor), work as some office clerk or junior assistant, salary always less than RM1,800, started investing early (say 24 also), now you are 40++, and you already retired comfortably with net wealth over RM1 million, then that would be highly convincing.

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i m thoroughly speechless :speechless:

he said it a zillion times that he is here to share, not to convince. why not pay attention?
what has one to gain from convincing you?

Dorky,
are u here to convince others in your methods? u hav been harping non stop.........
IF and IF u r here to convince others, then why not state all the above of yourself?

 :speechless:

ps. sharing benefits the world and its population. i could b wrong as usual.

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« Reply #96 on: October 28, 2012, 04:05:47 PM »
at least we know Leno is a retired Dr. with passion in value investing.(true value investing:Ben Graham)

what about Dorky?
CFA to b? mayb? soon? ever?

what is his/her reasons of being here?
to convince or not to convince? (this is the Q)
but why?
superior investing(speculating) skills?
to share?

angry/happy?
what motivation....................

i m lost
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« Reply #97 on: October 28, 2012, 06:50:26 PM »
at least we know Leno is a retired Dr. with passion in value investing.(true value investing:Ben Graham)


Leno is a Dr Ah? read somewhere Dr Kim is also another real Dr.  :o, so many people with PHD here  :o :o :o

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Re: Can you imagine (Dorky)...or even (Leno)?
« Reply #98 on: October 28, 2012, 06:56:14 PM »
Leno is a Dr Ah? read somewhere Dr Kim is also another real Dr.  :o, so many people with PHD here  :o :o :o
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« Reply #99 on: October 28, 2012, 07:14:21 PM »
iiinvestsmart are you a fun manager? :D

More than 1 person has asked if I am a fund manager.
Only if that includes someone who is managing his own funds.   :)


The answer is NO. 
Please do not ask this of me again.  Thanks.   :handshake: :cash:
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