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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2015, 04:06:31 PM »

spektro???


No worry....no worry


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OIL SET TO DROP BELOW USD 50 >> BOOOOO CHOWWWW CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2015, 04:09:47 PM »
 :phew: :phew:  ;) ;) ;) ;).............

THOSE  TRAP  due  to market suddent CRASH  MID  NOV &  EARLY  DEC 2014 ( last month )  still trap liao - no way out  !!

when the OIL  PLUNGE  BELOW   USD  50  >>  anytime    , -   another  CRASH  WAITINGGGGGG........... :phew: :phew: :phew: :sweat:

DANGEROUSSSSS ahead   :( :( :'( :sweat: :sweat:

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #52 on: January 03, 2015, 04:14:06 PM »


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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2015, 04:27:56 PM »

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2015, 04:44:05 PM »
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Re: OIL SET TO DROP BELOW USD 50 >> BOOOOO CHOWWWW CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2015, 06:14:08 PM »
:phew: :phew:  ;) ;) ;) ;).............

THOSE  TRAP  due  to market suddent CRASH  MID  NOV &  EARLY  DEC 2014 ( last month )  still trap liao - no way out  !!

when the OIL  PLUNGE  BELOW   USD  50  >>  anytime    , -   another  CRASH  WAITINGGGGGG........... :phew: :phew: :phew: :sweat:

DANGEROUSSSSS ahead   :( :( :'( :sweat: :sweat:

Please take action to protect your hard earn moni. Our DR KIM's critical analysis on our stock market had always been proven korrect all the times.

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Re: OIL SET TO DROP BELOW USD 50 >> BOOOOO CHOWWWW CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2015, 06:58:53 PM »
Please take action to protect your hard earn moni. Our DR KIM's critical analysis on our stock market had always been proven korrect all the times.

those  stubborn to suffer liao - roasted to dead  rat  !!.....

:phew: :sweat: ;) ;)

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2015, 07:17:18 PM »
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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2015, 10:32:01 PM »
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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #59 on: January 03, 2015, 10:34:40 PM »
Copy this from somewhere  ;)

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-fantastic-time-to-buy-oil-stocks-2014-12?IR=T&;

In an October 2008 op-ed in the New York Times, Warren Buffett famously advised: “Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.”

Whereas most investors during that time of financial panic were dumping their freefalling U.S. equities, Buffett was snatching them up at such great volume that he imagined his personal, non-Berkshire Hathaway portfolio would soon be composed only of domestic stocks.

“I haven’t the faintest idea as to whether stocks will be higher or lower a month — or a year — from now,” he continued. “What is likely, however, is that the market will move higher, perhaps substantially so, well before either sentiment or the economy turns up.”

The same is true for oil prices. I can’t say when oil will begin to recover or by how much. What I can say is this: For far too many investors, by the time they gain back the confidence to put money into oil stocks again, the rally might have already taken off, making it challenging to capture the full benefit of the upswing.

Think of it this way. Every Black Friday, merchandise is discounted to such an extent that thousands of bargain shoppers are willing to camp overnight in parking lots to be the first inside. When the doors open, people literally get pushed, shoved, elbowed and trampled on.

But too often, the stock market works in a curiously opposite way. When certain stocks drop in price, investors scramble for the exit instead of picking up the bargains.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #60 on: January 03, 2015, 10:36:00 PM »
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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #61 on: January 03, 2015, 10:37:53 PM »
Copy this from somewhere  ;)

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-fantastic-time-to-buy-oil-stocks-2014-12?IR=T&;

In an October 2008 op-ed in the New York Times, Warren Buffett famously advised: “Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.”

Whereas most investors during that time of financial panic were dumping their freefalling U.S. equities, Buffett was snatching them up at such great volume that he imagined his personal, non-Berkshire Hathaway portfolio would soon be composed only of domestic stocks.

“I haven’t the faintest idea as to whether stocks will be higher or lower a month — or a year — from now,” he continued. “What is likely, however, is that the market will move higher, perhaps substantially so, well before either sentiment or the economy turns up.”

The same is true for oil prices. I can’t say when oil will begin to recover or by how much. What I can say is this: For far too many investors, by the time they gain back the confidence to put money into oil stocks again, the rally might have already taken off, making it challenging to capture the full benefit of the upswing.

Think of it this way. Every Black Friday, merchandise is discounted to such an extent that thousands of bargain shoppers are willing to camp overnight in parking lots to be the first inside. When the doors open, people literally get pushed, shoved, elbowed and trampled on.

But too often, the stock market works in a curiously opposite way. When certain stocks drop in price, investors scramble for the exit instead of picking up the bargains.


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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2015, 10:40:50 PM »

見仁見智

Already oil counters moving up :)

First sign oil counters move up - then oil price - history repeats itself  ;)

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2015, 10:43:26 PM »
Not a buy or sell call  :handshake:

But if you see fund managers and EPF start buying oil companies now it means should be ok - look at recent Perisai announcement - EPF already now collecting.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #64 on: January 03, 2015, 10:46:17 PM »
Not a buy or sell call  :handshake:

But if you see fund managers and EPF start buying oil companies now it means should be ok - look at recent Perisai announcement - EPF already now collecting.

u mean the worst is over

a better 2morrow is coming for O & G counter

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #65 on: January 03, 2015, 10:52:03 PM »
Ada nyawa Ikan lor  :P

Luckily you Ikan Besar can survive all kind of crisis  :phew: :phew:

Ikan Kecil Semua lari kuat kuat  :sweat: :'(

Ya brother - I think the worst is over - all oil counters already rebounded off the lows worldwide - and only after they rebound - then crude oil rebound.

This is same historical pattern - always stock market react faster than commodities - in this case - crude oil.

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Re: OIL SET TO DROP BELOW USD 50 >> BOOOOO CHOWWWW CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
« Reply #66 on: January 03, 2015, 11:16:28 PM »
Please take action to protect your hard earn moni. Our DR KIM's critical analysis on our stock market had always been proven korrect all the times.

those  stubborn to suffer liao - roasted to dead  rat  !!.....

 :phew: :phew: :sweat: :sweat: :sweat: :nod: :speechless: ;)

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Read news why everywhere in world buying energy stocks now
« Reply #67 on: January 03, 2015, 11:28:22 PM »
http://gulfnews.com/business/markets/wall-street-week-ahead-new-year-may-mean-new-view-on-energy-stocks-1.1435383

Wall Street Week Ahead: New year may mean new view on energy stocks Dramatic decline means some investors will look for buying opportunities  :clap:

Reuters Published: 13:26 January 3, 2015


New York: Last year was an ugly one for the U.S. energy sector, and while the first trading day of 2015 pointed to continued weakness in oil, investors are starting to look to when the sector might start to recover.
Crude oil prices fell 42 percent in the fourth quarter. The fallout on corporate bottom lines isn’t yet known, but forecasts suggest it will be severe. Energy sector earnings are seen down 19.6 percent in the fourth quarter, according to Thomson Reuters data; on Oct. 1, the consensus estimate was for growth of 6.4 percent.
While the flip in expectations is bearish, analysts say the dramatic decline in the stocks means some investors are going to start looking for buying opportunities.
“It won’t surprise anyone to see profits fall, so if you have no exposure this is a good time to step in,” said Scott Wren, senior equity strategist at St. Louis-based Wells Fargo Advisors, which has an “equal weight” rating on the sector. “The market is ready for bad news.” Investors didn’t flee the group even as it fell in the last three months of the year. A total of 85 energy sector funds tracked by Lipper, a Thomson Reuters company, shows five consecutive weeks of inflows dating to late November, with more than $3.5 billion in inflows.

 
One of the buyers is Michael Matousek, head trader at U.S. Global Investors Inc in San Antonio, who said he was adding exposure “since these stocks are so cheap right now.” Matousek noted that the pain wasn’t spread equally across the sector. Denbury Resources and Noble Corp were two of the worst performers in the S&P 500 last year, losing half their value, while big integrated oil and gas firms saw less severe share price declines. Exxon Mobil fell 8.6 percent in 2014 while Chevron Corp lost about 10.2 percent.
Linn Energy and Civeo Corp issued warnings this week, with both citing how lower prices have led to lower production.
Investors seeing the decline in share prices and concern about overleveraged companies could bet on weaker players getting taken out by bigger companies. The energy sector has already seen one big deal, in November, when Halliburton Co agreed to buy Baker Hughes Inc for $35 billion.
“You could start seeing M&A take place, since it makes sense for the bigger players to start gobbling up smaller companies,” Matousek said. “They’ve got plenty of cash on hand and can use it to grow if they’re not growing organically.” While energy shares are viewed as one of the market’s bigger bargains, that comes with bigger risks. The supply glut that has devastated oil prices shows no signs of stabilizing.
“Certain areas of the sector have come down enough,” said Joshua Brown, vice president of investments at Fusion Analytics in New York. “The big high-dividend companies, those probably have, but the smaller companies? They haven’t seen enough pain.”


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Re: Oil drop again
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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2015, 07:39:09 AM »
dead  rat....no matter  what  :phew: :phew: :phew:

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #70 on: January 04, 2015, 08:10:30 AM »
Good. Continue to drop more.
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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #71 on: January 04, 2015, 08:17:08 AM »
Good. Continue to drop more.



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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #72 on: January 04, 2015, 08:22:57 AM »


Drop More Buy More.   :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #73 on: January 04, 2015, 08:35:19 AM »


Toyota has successfully launch the First Commercially Viable Fuel-Cell car, The Mirai.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #74 on: January 04, 2015, 08:36:42 AM »

Toyota has successfully launch the First Commercially Viable Fuel-Cell car, The Mirai.


A new Threat to the oil bull ??

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #75 on: January 04, 2015, 09:35:12 AM »
Tnb laugh to the bank..with use of electric car... :thumbsup: :cash:

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #76 on: January 04, 2015, 09:40:24 AM »
Tnb laugh to the bank..with use of electric car... :thumbsup: :cash:

FUEL-CELL IS NOT ELECTRIC CAR.

ITS POWERED BY HYDROGEN.

IT SUCKS OXYGEN FR THE AIR,  CHEMICAL REACTION OF HYDROGEN+OXYGEN PRODUCE ELECTRICITY.  THE BY-PRODUCT IS WATER.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #77 on: January 04, 2015, 09:41:22 AM »


ITS A TECHNOLOGY BREAK-THROUGH !!!!!!

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #78 on: January 04, 2015, 09:42:48 AM »



DUN PLAY PLAY WIF

TECHNOLOGY !!!!!!!!

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #79 on: January 04, 2015, 09:44:24 AM »
Only will consider to buy below 50
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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #80 on: January 04, 2015, 09:44:57 AM »
FUEL-CELL IS NOT ELECTRIC CAR.

ITS POWERED BY HYDROGEN.

IT SUCKS OXYGEN FR THE AIR,  CHEMICAL REACTION OF HYDROGEN+OXYGEN PRODUCE ELECTRICITY.  THE BY-PRODUCT IS WATER.

BEGINNING OF THE END TO

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #81 on: January 04, 2015, 10:17:36 AM »
Copy this from somewhere  ;)

http://www.businessinsider.com/a-fantastic-time-to-buy-oil-stocks-2014-12?IR=T&;

In an October 2008 op-ed in the New York Times, Warren Buffett famously advised: “Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.”

Whereas most investors during that time of financial panic were dumping their freefalling U.S. equities, Buffett was snatching them up at such great volume that he imagined his personal, non-Berkshire Hathaway portfolio would soon be composed only of domestic stocks.

“I haven’t the faintest idea as to whether stocks will be higher or lower a month — or a year — from now,” he continued. “What is likely, however, is that the market will move higher, perhaps substantially so, well before either sentiment or the economy turns up.”

The same is true for oil prices. I can’t say when oil will begin to recover or by how much. What I can say is this: For far too many investors, by the time they gain back the confidence to put money into oil stocks again, the rally might have already taken off, making it challenging to capture the full benefit of the upswing.

Think of it this way. Every Black Friday, merchandise is discounted to such an extent that thousands of bargain shoppers are willing to camp overnight in parking lots to be the first inside. When the doors open, people literally get pushed, shoved, elbowed and trampled on.

But too often, the stock market works in a curiously opposite way. When certain stocks drop in price, investors scramble for the exit instead of picking up the bargains.


Quote: In an October 2008 op-ed in the New York Times, Warren Buffett famously advised: “Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful.”  Unquote  :wonder: :wonder: :wonder:

At the current moment, we are at which phase? "Be fearful when others are greedy" or "Be greedy when others are fearful."

IMHO most likely the first statement...."Be fearful when others are greedy."  Many people are trapped in the O&G sectors.  Huge losses and HOPPING to get out breakeven. Some people missed the earlier O&G super bull run and now jumping in at so call 'cheap sale' price so as not to MISS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY to make big profit. These are classic example of EMOTIONAL TRADING.  ;) ;) ;)

When to be "Be greedy when others are fearful"?  IMHO, the time to be greedy is when those people who are still trapped with huge losses decided to throw in their towel and sell....vow not to trade in the market again.  ;) ;) ;)

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #82 on: January 04, 2015, 10:22:45 AM »

WHY SAUDI SO GUNGHO ABOUT NOT CUTTING PRODUCTION??

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #83 on: January 04, 2015, 10:32:25 AM »
WHY SAUDI SO GUNGHO ABOUT NOT CUTTING PRODUCTION??
:D :D :D.....no konlormee sense arr :shake: :shake:,,,,established rigs,only usd10 production cost agst 50+ per barrel sales,who will care somehow all suuuck from same boundaryless pool lar!!! :)

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« Reply #84 on: January 04, 2015, 10:39:19 AM »
:D :D :D.....no konlormee sense arr :shake: :shake:,,,,established rigs,only usd10 production cost agst 50+ per barrel sales,who will care somehow all suuuck from same boundaryless pool lar!!! :)


OR THEY ANTICIPATE THE THREAT FR FUEL-CELL WLD COME FASTER THAN MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT ??   ??

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« Reply #85 on: January 04, 2015, 10:40:25 AM »

OR THEY ANTICIPATE THE THREAT FR FUEL-CELL WLD COME FASTER THAN MOST PEOPLE THOUGHT ??   ??


SO, PUMP N SELL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE B4 TOO LATE ??    ??    ??

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« Reply #86 on: January 04, 2015, 10:44:10 AM »

SO, PUMP N SELL AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE B4 TOO LATE ??    ??    ??
;).u r from mars or jupiter :),...... ;)usd stronger with weaken oil price!!! :) ;) ;)

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #87 on: January 04, 2015, 10:44:48 AM »
to envy those who have doomsteads as they might survive as we head from civilization to mad max over the next couple of years. I am convinced their will be a very hard crash soon.
If you do have a doomstead make sure you have nearby friends and large weapon stocks.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #88 on: January 04, 2015, 10:46:59 AM »
;).u r from mars or jupiter :),...... ;)usd stronger with weaken oil price!!! :) ;) ;)

STRONG USD IS ANOTHER FACTOR.

DEMAND-SUPPLY MISMATCH ALSO ANOTHER FACTOR.

ALL TOLD,  THE 14 YR OIL SUPER BULL CYCLE HAS ENDED!!!!!!

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« Reply #89 on: January 04, 2015, 10:48:41 AM »
to envy those who have doomsteads as they might survive as we head from civilization to mad max over the next couple of years. I am convinced their will be a very hard crash soon.
If you do have a doomstead make sure you have nearby friends and large weapon stocks.

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« Reply #90 on: January 04, 2015, 10:53:21 AM »
 :D :D :D.....warland bofatt so rich becos too many willing overpanlai eldest sons!! :P :handshake: :handshake:

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #91 on: January 04, 2015, 10:58:57 AM »
Saudi Arabia is forecasting a deficit this year, its' first budget deficit since 2011 and largest ever. however apparently they don't spell out what price they see for 2015 onward, and in the article there are various people quoted for what Saudi Arabia actually is forecasting the price of oil to be in 2015.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #92 on: January 04, 2015, 01:14:54 PM »


In t middle of 1998 financial crisis, oil was only

10$ !!!!

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #93 on: January 04, 2015, 01:17:35 PM »


T historical high of oil was

145$ in July 2008 n it collapsed to

Below 40$ in Dec 2008.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #94 on: January 04, 2015, 01:18:42 PM »


Where is t current

Bottom ??

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #95 on: January 04, 2015, 03:28:51 PM »

% of o & g loan to tot loan :

1. Affin    4
2. Cimb   3.5
3. Ammb 3.5
4. Mayb   2.6

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #96 on: January 04, 2015, 04:16:14 PM »


Henry Kissinger said,

Control oil and u control nations.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #97 on: January 04, 2015, 05:05:16 PM »
FUEL-CELL IS NOT ELECTRIC CAR.

ITS POWERED BY HYDROGEN.

IT SUCKS OXYGEN FR THE AIR,  CHEMICAL REACTION OF HYDROGEN+OXYGEN PRODUCE ELECTRICITY.  THE BY-PRODUCT IS WATER.

If t problem of hydrogen refilling is solved,

Fuel cell can replace internal combustion engine.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #98 on: January 04, 2015, 05:08:13 PM »
If t problem of hydrogen refilling is solved,

Fuel cell can replace internal combustion engine.

Then t era of high oil price cld b history.

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Re: Oil drop again
« Reply #99 on: January 04, 2015, 06:42:13 PM »
There has only been one other time in history when the price of oil has crashed by more than 40 dollars in less than 6 months. The last time this happened was during the second half of 2008, and the beginning of that oil price crash preceded the great financial collapse that happened later that year by several months. Well, now it is happening again, but this time the stakes are even higher. When the price of oil falls dramatically, that is a sign that economic activity is slowing down. It can also have a tremendously destabilizing affect on financial markets. As you will read about below, energy companies now account for approximately 20 percent of the junk bond market. And a junk bond implosion is usually a signal that a major stock market crash is on the way. So if you are looking for a “canary in the coal mine”, keep your eye on the performance of energy junk bonds. If they begin to collapse, that is a sign that all hell is about to break loose on Wall Street.