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AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« on: December 12, 2015, 11:02:58 PM »
Now days contra NO good!
Got no money no buy:-)
At least can change folio at year end ma!
Got to do before 3rd week of Dec lor..

Start doing it $$$
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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2015, 08:11:07 AM »
Another Holland cal!

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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2015, 09:55:52 AM »
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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2015, 11:41:02 AM »
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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2015, 11:57:31 AM »
more to come

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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2015, 02:08:16 PM »
FYR performance through out years of buisness NOT excellent NOT highly Satisfactory but Satisfatory.
NTA 0.57
Hit 52 weeks high 0.295 Friday trading after lagging quite sometimes (years)

Late September 2015 ( not yet play) AYS has JV with Japanese doing buisness on coming Olympic Games 2020
to understand better googles " AYS JV JAPANESE " last put money or $$$$ dot coming:-)

Preparation for Olympic Gamese 2020 should be coming 1- 3 years as the last year 2019 testing 1,2,3 heloo
hello...hello n by then my son in law can bring his sister to go to Nippon :-)walaaahhhhh
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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2015, 10:22:41 PM »
Next week onward u will see it crash towards 52weeks low! Just like the lousy dgsb call! Still nowhere! Compared to my superln! U. Must be SMart to choose who to listen mah

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« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2015, 10:26:56 PM »
Why a good profit making company with good indicator is always in downtrend? Three years ago, AYS was once at the price of RM0.60 but now it only RM0.22!

Firstly, in the last quarter of FY15, AYSís net profit had taken into account of fair value adjustment of investment properties of RM3.398m! Thatís mean after deduct the fair value adjustment, AYS whole year net profit will only left RM3.66m. Its PE will suppose to be 22.93! AYS is actually doing badly compared to FY14; its net profit had reduced 70%! FYI, fair value adjustment is a method of revalue the asset and adjusts its price according. The gain in value of the asset will treat as other income in P&L. If a person just look at the figure without goes through the explanation, he/she will easily fall into trap.

Secondly, the steel price is the major factors for AYSís business. The depressed steel price is the main reason why it performed weaker in FY15 compared to FY14. In other words, steel price is directly proportional to AYS net profit if other factors are the same.

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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2015, 10:27:59 PM »
Thirdly,

Year

2013

2014

2015

Net borrowings,RM'000

219,625

216,326

249,344

Free cash flow, RM'000

57,569

51,892

49,040

Net cash, RMí000

(162,056)

(164,434)

(200,304)

One doesnít need to be expert to analyze a companyís financial statement. We just need to simplify the data into something understand just like the table above. AYS net debt is increasing from year to year and now it was up to RM200m! It was a very huge amount for a company. FYI, AYSís market capitalization is only around RM85m, which is 2x lesser than its debt! It is very risky to invest in such a high debt company.

Lastly, the company FY15ís net profit is only RM3.66m after deducting fair value adjustment, but AYSís total director remuneration is RM6.28m. It means that AYS net profit suppose to be RM9.94m before deduct remuneration and 63% of it had been paid up as remuneration.  The Group Managing Director is collecting RM3.35m of remuneration a year! It was hilarious!

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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2015, 10:30:32 PM »
the company FY15ís net profit is only RM3.66m after deducting fair value adjustment, but AYSís total director remuneration is RM6.28m. It means that AYS net profit suppose to be RM9.94m before deduct remuneration and 63% of it had been paid up as remuneration. 

See??? Holland guy ask u buy a stock so u will pay the big fat salary of some underperforming lousy mgt!!!

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« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2015, 10:31:26 PM »
Have a look with the following Managing Directorís remuneration. Any of the company is performing better than AYS and their remuneration is 3x lower than AYS.

HOMERITZ --> RM600,000                                           

HEVEA --> RM750,000

PERSTIM --> RM850,000

TASEK --> RM1,000,000

PADINI --> RM1,200,000

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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2015, 10:37:31 PM »
Maybe to add a little from my point of view. Looking at the stagnant/ down trending revenue and profit for the past many years, we can immediate "skip" this company and don't waste time to look into this type of company。 坐吃山空type.

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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2015, 11:12:17 PM »
All these are comments from SMRT ppl from another forum

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« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2015, 12:25:02 AM »
dengar apa cik gu cakap tapi ingat jgn buat apa cik gu buat

u orang fikir sendiri betul ke tidak ok?
my son in law say he compared wth superlyn with AYS
he compared buah duku vs buah appleeir :-) so ada btul ka?
kalu smar u tnya lahhh...apa pasal dia campaign selama ni  counter xda cukup details
itu gsb sudah jadi asam keping pun xda full details.
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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2015, 01:19:28 AM »
Another Holland call for sure! Go check details comments from. Another. Forum! Dun let conman con you all again! Kena conned twice, shame on u all!

Now I wait n see how ays crash to 52week low next few weeks!! Usd hike going kill it very fast! This sailor is desperate now wanna sell u all! Be careful!

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« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2015, 01:21:11 AM »
dengar apa cik gu cakap tapi ingat jgn buat apa cik gu buat

u orang fikir sendiri betul ke tidak ok?
my son in law say he compared wth superlyn with AYS
he compared buah duku vs buah appleeir :-) so ada btul ka?
kalu smar u tnya lahhh...apa pasal dia campaign selama ni  counter xda cukup details
itu gsb sudah jadi asam keping pun xda full details.

 At least my gsb still return positive compared ur lousy dgsb recommendation from Holland land.

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« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2015, 01:22:19 AM »
LET ME Highlight again below
the company FY15ís net profit is only RM3.66m after deducting fair value adjustment, but AYSís total director remuneration is RM6.28m. It means that AYS net profit suppose to be RM9.94m before deduct remuneration and 63% of it had been paid up as remuneration. 


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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2016, 06:22:58 PM »
Now days contra NO good!
Got no money no buy:-)
At least can change folio at year end ma!
Got to do before 3rd week of Dec lor..

Start doing it $$$


taraaaaaa r:-)  $$$$$ amigoes up! coming soonģ
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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2016, 01:56:04 PM »
DEEPVALI RALLY COMING @BUDGET RALLY @FLYING TRAIN :-)

Steel Counters
Concrete railway slipper. ??

AYS moving up got buy
n moving down cheap git buy too
Therefore $$$$

vrommmmmmm! vrommmmmmmmmm $$$$$
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Re: AYS is one of Good Invesment Counter$$$
« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2016, 06:07:08 PM »
Down go n buy
Up got ppl sell cz got contra leg.

Got ppl buy big big n keep for a big push
Cat dont buy n play high till they have enough volume
to goreng .

Better buy n hold as many as you can afford .
See u in Japan !
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