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(新山30日讯)孩子沉迷电玩,父母苦劝不果的故事听多了,JJPTR(解救普通人)投资计划的出现,将故事翻转过来,一家人因JJPTR而闹“分裂”,这次是儿子很清醒,父母却沉迷。

25岁设计师黄先生接受访问时透露,母亲于半年前在一名中医师的介绍下,认识JJPTR投资计划,再将有关计划告诉父亲,于是双亲就在该名引荐人的指导下,开设2个户头,共投约8600令吉(2000美元)进去。


他透露,双亲对有关计划可以赚20%的回酬深信不疑,由于该计划对投资人的名额有所限制,双亲说服他与弟弟,用两人的名义,多开2个户头,一家人的投资总额为1万7200令吉。

询及这些投资可有赚到回酬?他表示,双亲一开始确实有尝到“甜头”,以致不久前将所赚到的回酬加上母金,全部再投入其中。

“所以,目前我们一家人有2万4000令吉卡在这个投资计划里。”

他指出,这些钱都是父亲辛苦在新加坡打工的储蓄,尽管没有这笔钱还不至于影响生活,但却是父亲的血汗钱。

“就当作用2万4000令吉买一个教训吧,只有让他们痛过一次后,才会清醒。”

商人:员工参与即开除

一名本地商人刘先生受询时表示,一旦发现下属参与金钱游戏投资项目,一律开除。

他认为,员工参与金钱游戏投资,等同于雇主教育失败,进而连累公司名誉。

“以生意人而言,如果经营面对亏损或不赚钱,是找得出原因的。金钱游戏输钱是不清不楚的,由创办人一个人说了算。”

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产业被用作JJPTR新山分行,相关业主称会咨询律师,如有需要将听从律师的建议,以保障作为业主的权益。

蔡姓业主受访时指出,JJPTR(解救普通人)新山分行负责人于一年前,以个人名义租下位于士姑来登加乌达玛商业区2楼与3楼办公室,对方告知,是用来做房地产与管理公司。

他说,近期媒体报道,他才知道出租的产业,相关租户是“金钱游戏”组织。

他透露,当初与有关租户签下的是“2+1合约”,出租该产业的2楼与3楼,月租为2800令吉。

“他们每个月都按时转账租金给我,所以我也没有去怀疑他们。”

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Re: Scams
« Reply #150 on: May 01, 2017, 06:27:48 AM »

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« Reply #151 on: May 01, 2017, 03:18:16 PM »



2017-05-01 12:05
张晋玮·金钱游戏深思
JJPTR对客户承诺每月给予20%的回报确实难以置信,但投资项目种类多,回报参差不齐,单看回报率难以断定投资项目的真伪。大马银行定期存款利率一般只有3%左右,阿里巴巴的股票在过去一年来的回报为50%,若加上杠杆效应,跟银行贷款投资,总回报在一年内翻几倍也并非不可能。
解救普通人(JJPTR)投资计划成为了城中热话,许多人拿出了血汗钱参与计划,希望能赚一笔,如今公司在崩溃边缘,参与者担忧血本无归。此事引人深思,有许多值得借鉴之处。

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笔者向来反对以赌徒心态进行投资,也不相信有一夜致富的投资策略,有关观点在1月3日发表的《赌徒心态》一文中,已经发表过。

近期许多报道也劝导国民谨慎投资,不要被贪念所蒙蔽而做出错误的决定,本文就不再多提。针对金钱游戏在大马泛滥一事,以下有几点值得补充。

金钱游戏并非投资,维基百科(Wikipedia)定义投资为透过完善分析,对于本金、收益可达一定程度的预估,将资金投入那些预期有增长的项目。金钱游戏的参与者似乎不了解风险,在未对所参与项目仔细分析的情况下投入资金,这是投机。

投机行为不止在金钱游戏里才察觉得到,人们在股市、楼市或债市进行没有把握的短期炒卖时,也是投机。这些短期炒卖行为不论犯法与否都不可取,一旦市场走势波动,投机者很有可能会血本无归。

单凭投资回报率无法辨别投资项目的真伪与质量。

JJPTR对客户承诺每月给予20%的回报确实难以置信,但投资项目种类多,回报参差不齐,单看回报率难以断定投资项目的真伪。大马银行定期存款利率一般只有3%左右,阿里巴巴的股票在过去一年来的回报为50%,若加上杠杆效应,跟银行贷款投资,总回报在一年内翻几倍也并非不可能。

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再者,有些骗局为了避嫌,选择采用相对实际的回报率。25岁的拿督涉嫌参与其中的诈骗案采用的每月回报率仅仅3%。要辨认投资项目的质量,可以分析它的可持续性,观察以往的回报历史,这比单凭项目的回报率辨别真伪来得实际。

选择投资项目不能单看投资机构的声誉。JJPTR在大马有好几家分行,堂堂拿督也被指参与骗案,相反,股神巴菲特也会投资一些声誉欠佳,甚至被称为“垃圾”

的债券(Junk Bond)。风险与回报向来成正比,投资者需要考虑自己能承担多少风险,再选择适合自己的投资项目。一般谨慎的投资者也会通过多元化投资以减低投资风险,并赢得合理的回报。

JJPTR 通过外汇交易赚钱,外汇市场波动不定,年纪轻轻的创办人在此领域是否真的有足够的经验,这点令人质疑。但这还不算是此投资项目最大的问题,问题是外汇炒卖并不能创造任何实际价值,炒卖者能获利得依靠买卖不合时的超卖者亏损的金钱,换句话说,少数的投机者赚了钱,需要由多数失败的投机者买单。因此,赚钱的炒卖者永远属于少数,即使能侥幸获利,人无千日好,炒卖者总有亏本的一天。

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任何的投资项目都不应该与金字塔运作模式挂钩,投资项目的回报取决于投资策略,受有关经济因素的影响。若投资公司鼓励参与者邀请更多人加入,并承诺根据新加入者人数提升早加入者的回报,这意味着早参与者赚的钱由后参与者买单。

此类项目跟“庞氏骗局”已经很相近。

亏钱的参与者并不是在金钱游戏里的唯一的受害者。据CNN报道,自从2008年金融风暴以来,大部份的千禧儿,即出生在2000年以后的年轻人,对于投资失去了信心。调查发现即使在全球利率创新低的时代,许多年轻人还是选择了把钱摆放银行而拒绝投资。如今,他们目睹金钱游戏如何摧毁他人的财富,他们对投资的信心犹如雪上加霜。长久下去,他们的财富不是因为货币贬值而缩水,就是被通货膨胀严重侵蚀。

大马政府和国行需要展开行动,教育国民理财,帮助国人保卫辛苦赚来的财富,此事刻不容缓。

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Re: Scams
« Reply #152 on: May 01, 2017, 07:38:52 PM »



案件逐年增加 非法投资3年骗近4亿
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非法投资活动3年来骗走近4亿令吉。
非法投资活动3年来骗走近4亿令吉。

(吉隆坡29日讯)警方揭发在过去3年内,受骗参与非法投资活动的案件逐年增加,这些事主共损失近4亿令吉,平均每人遭骗逾20万令吉!

全国警察商业罪案调查局总监拿督阿克里沙尼揭露,2015年至今年4月,警方接到1883宗投资诈骗案,涉及数额高达3亿7910万令吉,令人感到震惊并已敲起警钟。

他说,这种情况自在2015年起,已有上升的趋势。

“我们在2015年共接获408宗共高达7010万令吉损失投报;去年更增至1151宗,造成的损失更是高达2亿1030万令吉。”

“在今年首4个月,我们已接获324宗造成9870万令吉损失投报;单单首3个月已有237宗案件,损失更高达9040万令吉。”

雪高踞投资骗案榜首

阿克里沙尼接受《星报》访问时说,雪州高居投资骗案投报榜首,在2015年,雪州共接获160宗投报,损失金额为1690万令吉,在今年进一步攀升至296宗,投资者面对高达9830万令吉亏损。

他说,截至今年4月,雪州还是盘据榜首,共有98宗涉及1770万令吉投报。

他透露,至于吉隆坡及槟城则分别名列第二及第三位,今年首4个月,接获的投报分别有44及42宗。

他劝请公众提高谨慎,以免坠入投资陷阱。一般上任何提供高回酬的投资方案是令人感到疑心的,不得不防。

JJ崩盘疑云仅1人报警

他于星期四揭发,在“解救普通人”(JJPTR)崩盘疑云事件中,迄今只有一人就此事报警,这名事主声称,他于一月在柔佛州武吉甘蜜,通过一名女子介绍下,参与“解救普通人”投资计划,但在日前通过新闻报道,得知这是非法投资活动后,深感受骗,他在投资活动中损失2100令吉。

随着这名事主已于星期二(25日)报警后,警方已正式介入调查此事,并援引刑事法典第420欺骗条文查案。

警方公布的投资诈骗案数据

年份   案件(宗)   数额(令吉)
2015年   408   7010万
2016年   1151   2亿1030万
2017年(至4月)   324   9870万
总数   1883   3亿7910万

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Re: Scams
« Reply #153 on: May 02, 2017, 06:57:24 AM »



JJPTR推出新盤 金錢遊戲繼續玩
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金錢遊戲還沒玩完!“解救普通人”推出全新“投資平台”,原本的“外匯投資”,變成了“拆分盤”投資計劃,继续操作。



“解救普通人”面子書專頁在今晚11時許,上載一段視頻,介紹新“投資計劃”,並表明將把所有會員于舊平台的投資款額退還。

有關計劃標榜能讓會員“每10天賺取永續收入”,最低配套的金額為100美金,最高為1萬美金;每次拆分時還會舉辦幸運抽獎,獎品有汽車、摩哆及電話;拆分后還能獲得“JJ點數”,享有一些特定消費優惠。

“解救普通人”公司在今年初被列入國家銀行警示名單,上個月尾疑因未有新會員加入而爆發崩盤風波,但負責人李宗聖聲稱“電郵”被駭,導致外匯交易系統損失5億令吉,迫使公司無法給予發回酬給投資者。

李宗聖還揚言“東山再起”,推出新計劃。


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« Reply #154 on: May 02, 2017, 09:54:24 AM »
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« Reply #155 on: May 02, 2017, 11:44:51 AM »



2017-05-02 10:56
JJPTR推出新投资计划.有人力挺有人吁勿再受骗
“解救普通人”(JJPTR)创办人李宗圣,自称被骇崩盘后曾扬言东山再起,他昨日在脸书上载了一个视频宣布并介绍新投资计划。

“解救普通人”(JJPTR)昨日在脸书上载了一个视频宣布并介绍新投资计划。
(八打灵再也2日讯)“解救普通人”(JJPTR)创办人李宗圣,自称被骇崩盘后曾扬言东山再起,他昨日在脸书上载了一个视频宣布并介绍新投资计划。

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从这视频可看到,原本的“外汇投资”变成“拆分盘”投资计划,并且标榜“每10天赚取永续收入”,最低的投资配套是100美元,最高则是1万美元;而且每次拆分时还会有幸运抽奖;拆分后还能获得“JJ点数”,以享有一些特定消费优惠。

另外,负责人也在这视频留言承诺,将退还所有JJPTR会员在旧投资平台所投资的资金。

对此,网民的反应非常两极化,有者呼吁各界人士不要再相信李宗圣;有者则留言力挺李宗圣,另外也有人指出,不明白这个“拆分盘”投资计划。

以外汇投资为名的“解救普通人”(JJPTR)投资计划,日前自称户头被骇崩盘,创办人李宗圣即通过微信表示,“会东山再起,失败没什么”。

不过,这家公司已被国家银行列入2月24日更新的《金融消费者警示名单》中。除了JJ Poor To Rich外,另外两家相关的公司,包括JJ Global Network及JJPTR亦被列入警示名单中。

 

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« Reply #156 on: May 02, 2017, 01:40:44 PM »



会员要求公布所投资产业
瑞威老板拒绝因为……
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根据群组消息,richway老板拒绝公布所有产业,以免被有心人士找上门。

(槟城2日讯)尽管会员要求公布所投资的产业,唯Richway(瑞威)外汇及农业投资计划老板Alex Wong,却以公布后将会被破坏者及政府部门找上门为由而拒绝。


Richway近日将原本每月发放的30%红利减至4.5%,期间更数度表示该公司已成功将投资者的钱购买了实体产业,然而这并无法说服投资者,也引起他们质疑,要求该公司老板Alex Wong公布所有的产业。

根据Richway微信群组昨晚近午夜12时传入的消息,该公司老板Alex表示,自己说的话都是事实,然而无人可以体谅他。

他表示,公司已经退款给在4月1日到4月19日退出的会员,接下去就会退款给那些不曾收过利润,以及已经汇款给公司但还未注册,并经过聊天平台(live chat)处理的会员。

声称会让所有投资者回本

他希望那些已经收到退款的人可以上来汇报给其他人知道情况,证明公司真的有履行承诺,处理完这些,接下去就是5月15日发放第一期的4.5%利润(5天工作天)。

“明白事理的人就懂我在做什么,再说,如果我不负责任的话,我根本不需要做那么多事情,关了跑路就算了,何必那么辛苦,我也是有家人的,我需要做到这样吗?”

他声称会让所有的投资者回本,只是需要时间来证明给大家看,现在不是时候公布产业,当适当时期,会员们就会看到了!

“究竟谁有心破坏公司?自己心里有数,现在就连公司的地址,车牌,照片通通传上,那有什么好处?是对我判死刑吗?”

此外,针对有报道指该公司银行户头有12亿令吉一事,他加以否认,并指若真的有那么多,他不知有多开心,也可以做很多事情了。

“报导也说我不怕,会员们可去报警,我不怕坐牢?什么笑话,请问有谁很想坐牢的?人性往往就是喜欢听善意的谎言,我偏偏就是不会讨好,实话往往都是不好听的,我曾经说过我会以行动来证明一切。”

他也解释,关手机是为了避免会员影响他在处理种种事情和问题。


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« Reply #157 on: May 03, 2017, 06:59:43 AM »



中国严打南宁骗局
捉368人 起251万
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中国公安在一间公寓单位起获大批涉案证据,并盘问嫌犯。

(北京2日综合电)曾在国内风靡一时的“开发北部湾”、“西部大开发”、“南宁资本运作”等与中国南宁有关的骗局,星期一遭中国公安严打,共有368名涉案嫌犯落网,当场起获400万人民币(下同,约251万令吉)现款。


“新浪网”报道,本月1日清晨,一场以打击整治传销违法犯罪为重点的“神剑·打传”集中统一专项行动在南宁全市范围内撒网。

其中一名嫌犯李某是辽宁人,据她指出,自己通过网络发布投资项目消息,“吸引”其他人前来南宁考察,随后以签订申购书的方式,要求他们每人以5万零800元的金额进行消费项目投资。

出动1000警力

李某自述,公司并没有具体的投资项目,会员申购入会以后,要想获得收益,必须介绍其他人入会。

报道称,直捣传销窝点的同时,南宁市公安局经侦支队及各城区分局1000多名警力,奔赴事先摸排掌握的数十个传销人员活动场点及落脚点,逮捕了此前摸排锁定的嫌疑人和嫌疑车辆。

昨日9时许,一辆大众途观与一辆沃尔沃在行经南梧大道广西花鸟交易市场附近时被警方拦截,车上3人被逮捕,警方从车上搜出了20万元现金。

截至当天12时,共逮捕涉嫌传销人员368人(经初步调查,其中老总级人员82人,骨干人员249人,传销下层人员37人),当场缴获涉案资金400万元,查获涉案车辆57辆,查扣电脑、银行卡、传销账本、传销网络图等涉案物品一批,打击整治行动战果显著。

将轮番打击整治传销

报道指出,一直以来,南宁警方对传销违法犯罪保持高压严打态势,今年以来,警方已组织开展打击传销清查整治行动105次,出动警力3785人次,清查出租房747间,立传销犯罪案件48起,侦破28起,查获涉嫌传销人员2323人,刑事拘留173人,逮捕11人,移送起诉44人。

警方表示,将继续轮番展开打击整治传销专项行动,全力维护南宁的良好形象和社会稳定,为中共十九大胜利召开营造良好的社会治安环境。


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« Reply #158 on: May 03, 2017, 07:08:27 AM »



狼来了,不逃也不行动?/南洋社论
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近期有金句说得最多:金钱游戏是骗人!


狼来了!说得再多,不只是心甘情愿受骗,还换来一波接一波的羊群效应。今天,JJPTR拯救计划出炉了:只要继续投资,将继续永远获利。除非大家从“狼来了”的教训中苏醒,将永远难逃有一天自责“太笨,太天真”的重演。

金钱游戏爆了,就将崩溃时,之前袖手旁观的政客、政府也终于出来了。一再演秀争取亮相,总好过之前的不闻不问,不加监督与执法。但仍难掩盖人民疑惑:还要等到什么时候才来动手?

第二财长拿督斯里佐哈里阿都干尼有个名句“勿轻易被不合逻辑与不符常识的投资计划所吸引,深受其害,也是咎由自取”。

名句是不够的,我们担心的是,除非政府执法,阻止金钱游戏恶行,还是会有人宁可孤注一掷以博翻本而再次被“拯救计划”一骗再骗,泥足深陷。

首相署部长拿督斯里魏家祥说“非法集资,回本无望”也是名句,但还是不够的,因为,当情绪战胜理智后,所谓的“合情合理”都已仿如爱情,盲目得可以。

佐哈里指出,银行定期存款一年利息3%,国民投资机构也是6.75%而已,JJPTR(解救普通人)却提供一个月20%回酬。每月20%回酬,不就不用工作了吗?

一言以蔽之:用脑想都知不合逻辑!还是有人宁可选择相信谎言,一窝蜂的蜂拥而上。

归根结底,就是好逸恶劳,所以受骗!

其实,金钱游戏骗人不是说得最多,“回酬率逾6%须防有诈”才是一再重复的金句,说者还包括了国行总裁慕哈末依布拉欣。

JJPTR派息20%,不是年息,是月息,一年是240%,翻了逾二番。

这个谎话太离谱,但更不靠谱的是,Richway每月派息30%。要不是暂停派息,会员怎会起哄,群起痛骂?反映了另一个宁可选择相信谎言的实例。

《南洋商报》整理了大马股市十大派息王数据,得出结论,全年投资回酬高于20%的公司,也不过9家,即便股息王周息率也不及20%。

根据去年每股派息最高的股票(股息王)、大马银行股及富时隆综指30只成分股的派息情况,一家公司每个月要派息20%,可谓是不可能的任务。

但现实情况是,贪婪者宁可相信JJPTR,还包括知识分子和专业人士,与其说是侥幸心态,更大悲哀莫过于理性给情绪占据。

另一个更具说服力的例子:世界股神巴菲特旗下的投资公司伯克夏,尽管去年赚翻了,表现远优于标普500指数,2016年全年股价升幅也不过23.3%。

不过,JJPTR每月可以派息20%,还是有人相信,事实说明,苦口婆心劝诫远离金钱游戏,既不够也无用。

早于去年5月,首相署利商特工队资深委员拿督蔡兆源曾提醒,天下无白吃的午餐,任何投资宣称的回酬一旦比其他同等风险级别投资项目的回酬更高,投资者就须谨慎求证。

蔡兆源不是第一个也不会是最后一个提出来相同忠告和劝诫的人。当“狼来了”一再重复,还不能唤醒被暴利冲昏头脑的人民,国行总裁慕哈末的“金钱游戏首道防线,银行应先发制人”并不足以以儆效尤。

许多国家打从开始即将金钱游戏扫地出门,而我国政客与政府高官除了政治秀,除非痛定思痛——立法。已不是人民不断的“你怎么说”就能道尽受骗者的心酸与国家动手太晚之贻笑大方而能遮羞了!


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« Reply #159 on: May 03, 2017, 10:16:22 AM »
SERDANG: Another financial scheme known as “Bai Le Men” has gone bust – after just two weeks of operations.
 
It is believed that as many as 1,000 participants were affected, with losses estimated at RM4mil.

According to China Press, the scheme’s website is no longer accessible, showing only a message saying “under maintenance”.

Angry and frustrated, the victims lodged a police report at the Pekan Kinrara police station yesterday, added China Press.

They were earlier told that by investing as little as RM500, they could see a return of 6% and get a commission for recruiting more members.

Serdang OCPD Asst Comm Megat Mohammad Aminudin Megat Alias confirmed the case, saying 15 people had lodged a report about the scheme. The case is being investigated under Section 420 of the Penal Code for cheating.


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« Reply #160 on: May 03, 2017, 10:19:00 AM »
PETALING JAYA: After the spectacular collapse of his previous financial scheme, purportedly because of a hacked account, controversial scheme operator Johnson Lee has rolled out a new plan, claiming to offer even better returns.

While JJPTR’s earlier scheme – which ended with RM500mil missing from the company’s account – offered returns of 20% a month, this new one offers 35%.

On top of that, it offers special lucky draws with a new car, motorcycles and smartphones as prizes.

What the company did not say in the shining glossary of the new plan is how Lee plans to address the US$400mil (RM1.73bil) losses he claims the company has incurred.

The new scheme also does not explain how he plans to repay those who lost their money to the earlier scheme.

The one-and-a-half minute video Lee uploaded shows that the new plan is based on a “split mechanism” and has three rounds.

The initial investment in US dollars is “split” or doubled in each round. Half of it is re-invested in the scheme and rolls over to the next round.

Each round lasts 10 days and investors are allowed to convert their earnings back to ringgit after three rounds.

Anyone who invests US$1,000 (RM4,331) is expected to receive US$450 (RM1,949) in each round, making it a return of US$1,350 (RM5,847) by the end of round three.

Under the proposed new scheme, investors will also be rewarded with JJ Points, which can be used in exchange for goods via its shopping platform JJ Mart.

The new scheme was announced by the 28-year-old Lee last Tuesday after news broke that his company had gone bust.

The company did not say when the new plan would start.

Attempts to contact Lee were futile and the number listed on the JJPTR Facebook page is already out of service.

A visit to the company’s offices in Penang showed that investors were no longer lining up for answers.

Instead, the staff, who preferred not to be photographed, were seen sitting at empty counters.

Penang-based JJPTR, or Jie Jiu Pu Tong Ren in Mandarin (salvation for the common people), came under the spotlight when investors complained that they did not get their scheduled payment last month.

JJPTR, JJ Poor to Rich and JJ Global Network are among the entities listed as unauthorised companies under Bank Negara Malaysia’s Financial Consumer Alert.

Records from the Companies Commission of Malaysia showed that JJ Global Network was a “RM2 company” owned by Lee and his former girlfriend Tan Kai Lee, 24. Each hold a single share.

Lee’s father Thean Chye, 58, and Tan are also directors of another company called JJ Global Network Holdings Bhd.

Thean Chye, who was an assistant professor at Southern University College in Johor, resigned on Wednesday after the JJPTR losses came to light.


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« Reply #161 on: May 03, 2017, 10:33:13 AM »
the more scam we had
which mean a lot of people are very very very talented like Dr Kimmy

we had come to a stage where we no more produced student
we had produced master of the universe

well done....we have achieved the highest level of all genius in this universe

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Our JL ... Malaysian world outstanding financial genius, trained by our DR KIM ?  ;) ;) 8) 8)

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« Reply #163 on: May 03, 2017, 09:31:03 PM »
The cooperative debacle in the 1980s and the current money game scams are two very different things, but they nevertheless reflect the same kind of quality of our people over three decades, with the same level of government enforcement standards as well as the trend of declining social values.

The younger generation may not have much idea how the local Chinese cooperatives pooled together community funds to invest in large corporations in a bid to boost the Malaysian Chinese economy.

When the Barisan Nasional (BN) government introduced the New Economic Policy (NEP), MCA leaders were worried the community’s economy would be left behind. So they proposed to pool community funds together.

Former MCA president Lee San Choon set up Multi-Purpose Holdings through which Koperasi Serbaguna Malaysia (KSM) was formed. Within only a few years, holding companies and cooperatives mushroomed, as rural folks dug out their lifetime savings to invest.

It was reported that as many as 3,200 cooperatives were in operation at that time, boasting collectively more than 2.5 million members and RM4.2 billion in assets.

There are similarities between the cooperatives of the 1980s and the money game scams we have today.

First and foremost, exceptionally lucrative returns. The deposit rates offered by Chinese cooperatives then were between 13% to 20%, far higher than the 9% to 10% fixed deposit rates offered by financial institutions at the time.

The returns of get-rich-quick schemes, meanwhile, is even more attractive, at 20% or even 30% per month. Both had promised instant riches for the have-nots.

Then, in July 1986, news of a bunch of Kosatu (Koperasi Belia Bersatu) depositors failing to get their money sparked an unprecedented bank run.

After the general election on Aug 2 the same year, Bank Negara froze the assets and activities of Kosatu and another 23 cooperatives under the Essential (Protection of Depositors) Regulations 1986.

The country was suffering from a recession at that time, while the economy today is not much better. Many people wanted some quick cash to address the pressure of life.

When a bank run happened to the first cooperative, the confidence crisis triggered a domino effect. Similarly, following the collapse of JJPTR, the other money game companies may eventually go bust because fewer and fewer people will join them, making it difficult for them to pay off their investors.

Secondly, slow government action. When the government froze the assets of 24 Chinese cooperatives for illicitly receiving public deposits, their leaders claimed that they had been permitted to take deposits when they applied to register their companies.

The grey area that existed in the 1980s remains much the same today. Bank Negara, the police and domestic trade industry all have no idea who should take the first initiative to tackle money game scams.

Poor enforcement and lenient, or even non-existent, punishments have contributed to the utter chaos in our society, making our laws unenforceable.

Thirdly, the con-men have recycled the pretext of “boosting the economy” in a bid to win the approval of investors. For instance, JJPTR founder Johnson Lee’s father has described the scheme as a systematic, moral forex investment company capable of lifting the Malaysian economy.

Following the burst of the cooperative bubble, company directors were hauled to the courts one after another to face CBT charges.

How do we expect this kind of dishonest people to ever lift the country’s economy? They will only add to our economic plight. Lifting the national economy through money games? Fat hopes!

Sadly, the moral concept of Malaysians has shown little improvement over the decades.

In the 1980s, a retired school principal who became the branch manager of a cooperative took his own life having come under severe pressure.

But today, a doctorate holder doesn’t even feel the slightest shame for his involvement in the despicable money game, while an old woman broke ties with her own daughter just because she insisted on attending a dinner sponsored by Zhang Jian, the man who promoted himself as the “world’s future richest man”.

Money game companies have exploited charity and education to whitewash their crimes. Even though the school directors were well aware of what Zhang Jian had done, they still willingly accepted his donation.

The popularity of money games has exposed the erroneous money concept many Chinese Malaysians have.

When the size of a person’s wealth becomes his only goal in life, he will never be able to tell between what is right and wrong, and we cannot pin our hopes on these people to make positive contributions towards society and the nation.

The future of the Malaysian Chinese community will remain gloomy even if we are able to produce thousands more of multi-millionaires.

Even if the money game is eventually put under control by the authorities one day, similar incidents will keep popping up in future if we don’t change our mentality. The cheating tactics will only get more sophisticated with the advancement in technology.

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BNM: Investors can be charged too over financial scams
FMT Reporters | May 4, 2017
Bank Negara orders all financial institutions to heighten vigilance in detecting accounts used by perpetrators of financial scams, and to monitor such clients.
BNM-ringgitPETALING JAYA: Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) has reminded investors that they too are liable to face charges for participating in illegal financial schemes.
Saying that it views illegal financial schemes very seriously, BNM however, promised to first enforce the law against the perpetrators and promoters of such schemes.
“The wrongdoers will face the full brunt of the law, including laws administered by Bank Negara Malaysia, the Penal Code, the Interest Schemes Act 2016, the Direct Sales and Anti-Pyramid Scheme Act 1993 as well as the Anti-Money Laundering, Anti-Terrorism Financing and Proceeds of Unlawful Activities Act 2001.
“Under existing laws, legal action can also be taken against investors participating in illegal schemes for abetment,” the central bank said in a statement over the recent controversy over forex and other investment schemes going bust, amid a backlash from investors who were promised high returns of 20-30%.
BNM said it is setting up an inter-agency initiative, led by the Attorney-General’s Chambers under the National Coordination Committee to Counter Money Laundering.
With such an initiative, the authorities will be able to take joint enforcement action against any cases of financial fraud and scams.
Warning against financial schemes promising unrealistically high returns, BNM advised Malaysians to avoid falling prey to such scams by referring to BNM’s Financial Consumer Alert, which lists companies that are neither authorised nor approved under the relevant laws and regulations administered by the central bank.
“We also provide information on the common features of illegal financial schemes.”
In the meantime, BNM will escalate the matter with all financial institutions in the country to ensure that large sums of funds are monitored and reported back to the central bank.
“Financial institutions and money business service providers have been directed to heighten their vigilance in detecting the accounts which are used by the perpetrators of financial scams.

“They have also been told to further enhance their customer due diligence policies and processes in identifying suspicious transactions and fund flows between bank accounts so as to prevent financial institutions from becoming conduits that facilitate such illegal schemes.”
Recently, a number of ‘money game’ operators and other investment schemes have come under the spotlight after one such company, JJPTR, said that it had lost RM500 million to “hackers” who allegedly siphoned off the funds from the company’s accounts.
The founder of the Penang-based JJPTR, Johnson Lee, then promised to repay all investors their capital, and later claimed to have found foreign investors to cover the customers’ investments.
JJPTR’s money game investment scheme was established in 2015, promising returns as high as 20% a month to members.
According to The Star in a report yesterday, JJPTR is one of three that went bankrupt last monh. The others are Richway Global Venture and CYL.

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“Under existing laws, legal action can also be taken against investors participating in illegal schemes for abetment,” the central bank said in a statement over the recent controversy over forex and other investment schemes going bust, amid a backlash from investors who were promised high returns of 20-30%.

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NIBONG TEBAL: A cattle rearer lost RM48,000 to a get-rich-quick scheme after raising the fund by withdrawing from EPF and selling his cows.

A. Nagandran, 58, who is from Taman Mutiara Cempaka in Batu Kawan, said it all started in March last year when three men proposed an investment scheme to him.

“As I was already nearing retirement, I thought why not,” the father of five said when met yesterday.

Nagandran said one of the “uplines” helped create an email account for him and guided him on what to do next, which included transferring funds into a bank account.

“I sold the cows and used RM8,000 of the proceeds, as well as withdrew RM40,000 from my EPF for the investment,” he recalled.

Things went well at first, as Nagandran received payments for the first three months – although the monthly returns were lower than the RM5,040 promised earlier.

“I got only RM4,400 in my bank account in the first month. For the second month I received RM4,399, followed by RM4,398 in the third month. The reason given was the global economic slowdown,” he added.

“But when I did not receive my share in the fourth and fifth month, I was given various excuses and my family appealed to me to pull out from the investment. I was told that I would need to pay a RM1,200 fee as penalty to withdraw, which I paid.

“Later, I was told that the money was being held by a Datuk and a Datin who owned the company, and that they needed to sign documents to release the money,” said Nagandran.

Nagandran said he went to Kuala Lumpur to look for the company.

“I couldn’t find the company. A check with the Companies Commission showed that the investment company had closed.

“I have nothing now and cannot afford to engage lawyers to sue the company or people involved,” he added.


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KOTA BARU: A government servant quit her job after investing RM175,000 in an e-share scheme only to find her account “blocked” after her investment grew to over RM3.5mil.

Siti Zuraida Awang said she was convinced to join the scheme after finding out that even a well-known political leader in the state had invested RM450,000 in the e-share business.

“I quit my job a year ago because I was convinced it could not be a fraudulent venture, as investors in the scheme included top politicians.

“But now not only did I not get a full return on my capital investment, I can no longer access my account as well,” said the 36-year-old mother of two children aged seven and three.

Zuraida quit her job at the Health Ministry after investing in the e-share scheme in April last year.

Prior to that she was a staff under the Accountant-General’s Depart­ment.

She lodged two police reports against the company on March 29 and April 13 this year.

In her first report, she said three acquaintances came to her house in Pasir Mas to offer the scheme that promised big returns.

“It is not a get-rich-quick scheme. The company has direct selling licence under the Ministry of Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism.

“According to the company’s finance report, my investment had reached RM3.5mil.

“I tried to withdraw part of my investment in March this year, but was not able to do so.

“I lodged the report because the founder of the company gave an unreasonable excuse as to why I could not make the withdrawal.

“I lodged another police report about two weeks later because I was denied access to my account,” she said.

She called on the authorities to investigate.

Pasir Mas commercial crime officer Inspector Musliha Mohammad said they have referred the matter to Malaysia Companies Commission, as it was a registered company.


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Friday, 5 May 2017
JJPTR reached Australia before collapsing

BY ALEX TENG

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Uncertain: A man making enquiries about his investment at the JJPTR office in Perak Road, Penang.
Uncertain: A man making enquiries about his investment at the JJPTR office in Perak Road, Penang.
 
GEORGE TOWN: Controversial money game operator JJPTR is active not just in Malaysia – it even spread its wings to Australia before its collapse at the end of last month.

A young Malaysian couple based in Perth lost nearly RM10,000 after being coaxed into investing in the company by their colleague, a fellow Penangite.

The husband, who wanted to be known only as Yap, 31, said he opened two accounts in March, each worth RM4,700 – one in his name and the other under his wife Oon, also 31.

“My friend told me that the 20% returns would be banked in promptly every month,” he said.

“The scheme was starting to be quite popular among us (Malay­sians) in the factory here. I believe a few others also invested.”

Yap said he only found out that JJPTR had become problematic via The Star Online on April 20, the day he was supposed to collect his monthly returns.

Prior to the financial storm, JJPTR members would collect their returns on the 10th, 20th or 30th of each month but the company de­faulted on payments on April 20.

JJPTR members will be keeping tabs on their bank accounts over the next few days because founder Johnson Lee has promised to reimburse them.

According to a JJPTR employee who asked for anonymity, the company would probably pay those who invested in the two new schemes – JJPTR2 and JJPTR3 – first.

The two schemes were launched just a few months ago.

“I was told my boss would pay investors of the original scheme, which is JJPTR, after that.

“Payment will be made in stages and is expected to finish by May 20,” she said.

The company will be holding its annual dinner celebration at Ber­jaya Times Square in Kuala Lumpur on May 20.

Lee has indicated that he would be there to celebrate the occasion with his guests.

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国行:向亲友推销可被对付
非法投资上下线全有罪
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(吉隆坡4日讯)国家银行严正看待国内非法投资计划,除了会对付违反法令的非法投资发起人,那些涉及向亲友推销非法投资计划的“下线”,也可被对付。

国行说,违法者将会在国行监管的多项法令、刑事法令、2016年利息投资法令、1993年直销及反金字塔计划法令及2001年反洗黑钱反恐怖主义融资及非法犯罪活动法令下,受到对付。


“上述法令也会对付推销非法投资计划给其他人的投资者。”

国行发文告指出,在国家协调理事会下,将由总检察署主导一个联合行动对付这些金融诈骗行动。

“国行提醒民众不要参与这些高回酬的投资计划,他们应该查询国行黑名单,以免掉入不法分子的圈套。”

国行说,金融机构及金钱服务供应商已受促提高警惕,侦查任何非法投资计划通过银行户头进行金钱交易或转账,同时也要加强提醒客户。




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PETALING JAYA: It is very hard for even the most experienced professionals equipped with the best software and analytics to earn consistent gains in the foreign exchange market, said economist Dr Yeah Kim Leng.

Dr Yeah said JJPTR founder Johnson Lee’s claim that his “investment” scheme only made 1% profit daily on the forex market was highly questionable.

Commenting on Lee’s remark that compounded interest at 1% a day could yield a 34.78% profit in just a month, Dr Yeah said: “It may sound reasonable on the surface but look at how volatile the forex market is.

“It the most difficult market to forecast accurately and this has been confirmed by studies – both applied and academic research.”

Dr Yeah, who is an economics professor at Sunway Business School, urged the public not to believe in outrageous claims that one could make exceptional returns via the forex market.

He was commenting on a Nanyang Siang Pau report quoting Lee as saying that he was unlike other “greedy” fund managers and assuring his investors that JJPTR would not collapse because he was “disciplined enough” not to go beyond his targeted 1% profit daily.

The JJPTR investment scheme made headlines in the past weeks when news broke that it had collapsed after losing RM500mil to an alleged hacking job.

However, the losses are much higher.

In an interview, Lee confirmed that the company lost US$400mil (RM1.7bil) but claimed that he would be able to return the sum to his 400,000 investors in four to five years.

“I will no longer repay this via the 20% returns each month. Instead, my members’ capital will be repaid in a lump sum. Even so, this will take time and I believe it can be resolved in four years,” he told the Chinese daily.

Despite being presently investigated by no fewer than six government agencies, the 28-year-old is adamant that his company is not a scam.

“Because I was once poor, I understand how they feel. I am not cheating others and I remained (in Malaysia) to face the problem,” he said.

Lee claimed that he could have led a worry-free life by fleeing to the United States but chose to remain here to help his “supporters” recoup their investments.

“If I had fled, I would have lost all my supporters and even friends would look down on me,” he said.

Penang-based JJPTR – Jie Jiu Pu Tong Ren in Mandarin (“salvation for the common people”) – along with JJ Poor to Rich and JJ Global Network are among those listed as unautho­rised firms under Bank Negara’s Financial Consumer Alert.

Records from the Companies Commission showed that JJ Global Network was a “RM2 company” owned by Lee and his former girlfriend Tan Kai Lee, 24, with each holding a single share.

Lee’s father, Thean Chye, 58, and Tan are also directors of another company called JJ Global Network Holdings Bhd.

Thean Chye, who was an assistant professor at Southern University College in Johor, resigned last week after the JJPTR losses came to light.


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【独家】“变数多又快”
外汇交易员:日赚1%不可能
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独家报道:黎添华

外汇交易业界的人士指出,JJPTR创办人李宗圣的炒外汇“每日赚1%就收手”之说,是不可能的任务。(档案照)

(槟城5日讯)外汇交易业界的人士指出,JJPTR创办人李宗圣的炒外汇“每日赚1%就收手”之说,是不可能的任务。


尽管李宗圣接受本报独家专访时,声称自己的外汇投资策略以及投资比特币,让他有能力给全球40万名投资者每月高达20%的回酬,但是资深外汇交易员始终认为,李宗圣提出的“每日赚1%就收手”,在现实的外汇市场上,是不可能成真的。

投身外汇交易长达10年的交易员李康维指出,尽管炒外汇的回酬很高,但风险也不小。其中,1年里要是能1至2个月能获得每日赚取1%的辉煌纪录,也是已经非常罕见的了,所以,要在1年12个月天天获得1%回酬,是不可能的任务。

“不是有没有可能的问题,而是根本不可能啊!”

李康维也是外汇交易培训员,他接受本报访问时斩钉截铁地这么说。

他表示,一般上,交易员的精准度都只是维持在40% 至65%之间,对外汇市场能掌握70%精准度,更是罕见,就此从来没有人能通过外汇,每月赚取稳定的回酬率,而每月20%更是不可能的事。

他表示,从来就不会有交易员敢向顾客说一定赚钱,更何况是每个月20%的回酬。

“尤其外汇市场是相当瞬息万变的,变数多又快。”

太贪赚不了钱

李宗圣昨天接受本报专访时声称,他之所以能通过炒外汇赚钱分红予会员,全仗着本身的诀窍,并表示他在外汇上的策略是保持“每日赚取1%就收手”的法则,通过这样的纪律和严苛观察市场,所以才能赚取回酬。李甚至指外汇之所以令人赚不了钱,是因为玩家太贪所致。

另外,一名不愿具名的交易员也表示,其实外汇市场是绝对不可能让玩家每月赚取回酬的,因此,李宗圣的所谓“每日赚1%就收手”是不可能的事。

他也表示,希望这么说,能纠正大众对于外汇交易的误解,同时对这类高风险的投资,有更正确的观念与概念。

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JJPTR founder pledges to return RM1.7b to ‘investors’
Published: May 5, 2017 11:44 AM GMT+8

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JJPTR founder Johnson Lee said he has currently fully refunded those who invested in the JJ2 account, and added that he will gradually refund members who had contributed to his company’s JJ1 account. — File pic
JJPTR founder Johnson Lee said he has currently fully refunded those who invested in the JJ2 account, and added that he will gradually refund members who had contributed to his company’s JJ1 account. — File pic
KUALA LUMPUR, May 5 — JJPTR founder Johnson Lee confirmed that his company had incurred losses of US$400 million (RM1.7 billion), but claimed he could return this sum to his 400,000 “investors” globally within five years.

Lee, whose Penang-based unlicensed foreign exchange trading scheme was earlier reported to have collapsed after losing RM500 million to an alleged hacking, showed up in Penang for his first-ever face-to-face interview with the media.

Lee said he has currently fully refunded those who invested in the JJ2 account, and added that he will gradually refund members who had contributed to his company’s JJ1 account.

“I will no longer return it through a monthly 20 per cent dividend, but will return the capital to members in a lump sum. But, this will certainly take time, I believe this can be resolved in about four years,” he told Chinese-language business paper Nanyang Siang Pau.

Lee said he could have easily fled to the US to live comfortably, but insisted that he had never cheated anyone and would stay on in Malaysia instead of losing his remaining supporters and the respect of his friends.

“Because I was also once poor, so I know that feeling, I do not intend to cheat people, so I choose to face it,” he was also quoted saying.


Lee said that he will give discounts, but not force JJPTR’s current members to invest in the company’s latest scheme promising 35 per cent monthly returns — which is higher than the 20 per cent monthly dividend previously promised before the scheme collapsed.

He said that he has listed out various conditions for the new “investment” plan to make it easier for the public to join in, including setting a low entry point of US$25.

To counter greed among investors, Lee has also fixed a maximum investment amount of US$1,000 and will ensure that each investor only invests once by verifying their identity through the Malaysian identity card.

Lee revealed that only he and another individual managed JJPTR’s foreign exchange trading, insisting that providing the 20 per cent monthly dividend previously promised to members was not an impossible task.

He said the gains were through foreign exchange trading and bitcoin investment, claiming that others’ approach of putting a big bet due to greed resulted in huge losses. He said his “disciplined” approach instead limits daily earnings to 1 per cent to accumulate the lucrative monthly returns.

He also said that the company invests in a range of other tangible assets, such as in the film industry and grocery trade.

According to Nanyang, Lee had previously said JJPTR has 400,000 members in 18 countries, with 50,000 in China and 300,000 in Malaysia — including 150,000 in Penang alone.

In the interview, Lee confessed to being exhausted with having to deal with lawyers and the police daily, but was thankful that he had his team to back him up and to allow him a chance to rest and come out with the new scheme.

He also addressed news reports claiming that he had used JJPTR’s “investors’” hard-earned money to buy branded bags for his girlfriend.

“My girlfriend is an Internet celebrity and is also a young model, helping to endorse a lot of brands. Naturally she will receive sponsorship from these brands. Don’t need me to buy at all!” he said.

On Wednesday, local scambuster and financial adviser Afyan Mat Rawi was reported saying JJPTR’s new scheme offering 35 per cent is an unsustainable and illogical ploy to buy time and to pacify the company’s angry “investors”.

He added that the JJPTR scheme will collapse like most other pyramid schemes when there are no entry of new “investors”.

JJPTR, a foreign exchange trading firm said to have been active for a year, and its affiliated JJ Poor to Rich and JJ Global Network were listed on February 24 on Bank Negara Malaysia’s website as unauthorised and unapproved companies.

The central bank had on its website advised the public to not deal with or be involved in such illegal financial service providers, warning that they would not be covered by consumer protection laws and that they may even be charged with aiding the illegal operators.

Bukit Aman Commercial Crime Investigation Department’s statistics reportedly showed a recorded 1,883 cases of investment scams from 2015 until April 2017 that resulted in around RM379.1 million of losses nationwide.

* An earlier version of this article contained an error in the currency conversion. The error has since been corrected.

- See more at: http://m.themalaymailonline.com/malaysia/article/jjptr-founder-pledges-to-return-rm1.7b-to-investors#sthash.xyB4RH5f.dpuf

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【独家】李宗圣真的那么“神”?
他在美仅上2周网上交易课程…
2245点看 2017年5月6日
独家报道:黄丽君、黎添华

李宗圣:投资最重要的是纪律。

(槟城5日讯)JJPTR(解救普通人)的创办人李宗圣喊话有信心在新计划下,不超过5年就能偿还全球投资者的钱,但外界质疑或好奇,年仅28岁的他所指的外汇投资法则,是否真的能赚那么多钱。


问题是,李宗圣原来不是没有输过的,他早年曾在美国炒外汇,还两次把当时的身家输光,甚至曾想寻短见。

曾输掉身家想自杀

李宗圣当时自称通过外汇来赚取回酬予投资者,究竟当年他如何在26岁之龄,学会通过外汇来赚钱的呢?让本报向你细说重头。

李宗圣现身槟城接受本报访问时指出,他其实是在机缘巧合下接触外汇的。

他透露,他年轻时曾花了2万美元在美国修读了仅2星期的网上交易课程,而当时他矢言要在未来,赚回这笔钱。

“记得在美国时,我打3份工,最后所赚到的钱确实很多,但人也疲惫之极。在3个月后,朋友的介绍下当了产品传销。较后才知道外汇能赚钱,所以就上网自学,如何以外汇赚取更多收入。 ”

可是,当时李宗圣却在一夜之间,就输了整2万多美元的储蓄,然而,由于他曾打3份工,因此还可向银行贷款。他透露,当时他向3间银行贷款2万2000美元,但却也在一个星期后就亏完了这笔钱,这让他有意寻短见。

连续两次把身家输光,甚至欠银行一大笔钱,当时他不断反省,并怀疑本身是否正在赌博。就此,他进入赌场工作。

因赌场员工一句话醒悟

他披露,他某次和一名赌场员工聊天时,该员工说了一句:“真正厉害的赌徒进入赌场一小时后就会离开。”当下,他就因这句话而顿时醒悟。

“原来,其实当时我赢了,但我却一直不分昼夜地研究如何赚更多,追根究底,原来是自己没了纪律,而导致亏损。”

较后,他重新保持纪律地再次投资,并稳定地每月赚取盈利。

有纪律不会亏太多

发现美国因生活水平高,鲜少有人会进行投资,而进行投资者以中国人为主,李宗圣因此才发掘了亚洲的市场。

对于此次JJPTR的崩盘,他认为,若是有纪律,应不会亏损太多,最多只是1000令吉,真正亏损的是那些或利用其他人的身分证来登记为会员的投资者。据了解,JJPTR集资的最低门槛是25美元,最高则是1000令吉。

JJPTR把投资者归类成两大类,分别是“胆小”的,另外一种则是“贪婪”的。

对于胆量较小者,就可选择投资25美元,而为了控制贪婪者的执迷,他设下最高1000令吉的门槛。

李宗圣也表示,JJPTR甚至限制每个人只能以本身的身分证来投资,即意味着每人只能进行一次投资。然而,或许有投资者利用他人的身分证进行投资,若回本那就赚了双倍,但若是面对亏损,同样也是要输双倍或更多。

矢东山再起不落逃

李宗圣承认,他是个在事业上有复仇之心的人,甚至爱面子,因此誓言一定要从失败之处,重新站起来。他坦言,这次崩盘对他而言,确实是非常大的打击。

他声称,尽管许多集资公司相继传出崩盘消息,那些负责人可能也已不知所终,但他不选择一走了之。

他笑言,其实一些亲友甚至劝他离开我国避难,但他不选择这么做,因为他认为,他还可以东山再起。

李宗圣受访期间不断对他的代理表示感谢。他说,当天(24日)闹出JJPTR崩盘时,所有代理仍与JJPTR同在。

“其实这些代理跟JJPTR毫无关系,并没拥有任何股份或从中获取任何利益,他们只有代理权,但所有代理都非常坚强,甚至呼吁我休息,他们可照常上班。无论媒体或警察多次找上门,而尽管大部分的代理都是女性,但她们仍然坚持着。

“当时我恳请他们相信JJPTR可以东山再起,若愿意相信我的,请举手,当时所有人都举起了手,这让我非常感动。”

问答录

问:你承认炒外汇。国行说是非法的。你认为是合法还是违法?

答:不合法,但不犯法。

问:炒些什么外汇?

答:standard pair也就是跟美元有关系的。

问:近年来令吉“跌跌”不休,跟炒外汇活动有关系吗?

答:一点点关系吧,就看外国的钱进来比较多,还是本国出去的比较多。要让马来西亚经济好起来,只能让外国投资进来,这也是在我的计划之中。

问:你的“炒外汇每日赚1 % ”理论必须建立在所炒外汇每天必起的基础。有什么外汇的币值是永远只升不降的?若无,日赚1%之说,何来保障?

答:投资永远没保障,有保障的话早就让会员投资天文数字了。只是做交易的时候要有女人的细心,又要有男人的勇气。

问:不巧令吉这一两个月回弹,JJPTR即遇崩盘之说。似乎是你的日赚1%理论正撞铁板。对吗?

答:输到完又不是我们输,我们是因为密码被盗用而被有心人整我们。

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银行应先发制人 国行总裁:金钱游戏首道防线

贸消部长:下周设委会说明 “贪婪者怪政府不出手”

【视频】真的退钱了?! 李宗圣矢东山再起

“儿子做的与我无关” 李典财辞职护校誉

贸消部长:不曾发外汇投资执照 国家协调委员会调查JJPTR

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“越快加入就越快赚钱”? 来看JJPTR发布的27道Q&A

【独家/视频】现身槟城高谈解救大计 李宗圣:再给我1至5年

【独家】“变数多又快”  外汇交易员:日赚1%不可能

【独家】不愿等1年  投资者要李宗圣月内还钱

【独家】李宗圣真的那么“神”? 他在美仅上2周网上交易课程…

采访手记/黎添华:都是“贪”念在作怪

 

 


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« Reply #175 on: May 08, 2017, 10:39:47 PM »
BUTTERWORTH: Another money game operator, which promised its investors weekly returns of 12%, is said to be collapsing less than two months after a grand launch.
 
A 39-year-old man, said to be the brains behind the scheme launched last month, has since gone missing.

Investors – some of whom are from Kedah – are fearing the worst as its office in Taman Tanjung Aman near Jalan Raja Uda has been closed since Thursday.

Over the past two days, Kedah police have received 12 police reports from investors who claimed to have lost more than RM100,000 in the scheme.

However, its Commercial Crime Investigation Department chief Supt Chan Teck Paing believes the number to be just the tip of the iceberg, with more reports expected in the next few days.

He said investors were invited by the operator to join a WeChat group to know about the company’s latest developments.

“They panicked after the operator, who is also the WeChat group administrator, suddenly left the group last Wednesday.

“They sensed that something was amiss and came to us.

“Many of them have received their first payout but failed to get the subsequent dividends the following week. One of them invested RM26,200,” Supt Chan said.

It is learnt that investors were told the high returns were possible as three directors of the company were well-versed in the share market.

Investment packages range from US$500 to US$10,000 (RM2,300 and RM46,000) with an exchange rate of RM4.60 fixed by the operator.

However, the weekly returns are set at an exchange rate of RM4, which means investors get RM240 and RM4,800 for an investment of RM2,300 and RM46,000.

A shop operator nearby said there was much fanfare when the company was launched in mid-April.

“There was a grand celebration and a sumptuous buffet spread for the investors.

“The office has been closed since Thursday. Some investors asked us about it but we have never spoken to the operator or his staff.

“The glass windows are covered by a giant signboard, so we don’t know what is happening inside,” he said.


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« Reply #176 on: May 09, 2017, 10:10:34 AM »
GEORGE TOWN: Even the once loyal “generals” of JJPTR founder Johnson Lee are losing faith. Some of them are demanding their capital back.

When Lee launched the scheme in May 2015, he is believed to have had about 10 “generals” to help him recruit “investors”.

A businesswoman, who was one of them, said they did not only promote JJPTR but also invested in it, as it promised a 20% return each month.

The scheme, however, lasted barely two years before it collapsed last month.

With Lee about to launch a new scheme, also called JJPTR, some of the “generals” have ruled out joining the latest money game.

Others prefer to wait and see.

One thing is for sure: Nobody is as gung-ho as before.

It is probably due to recent warnings from the authorities to stay away from such schemes, or Lee simply does not have that “magic charm” anymore.

The 50-something businesswoman said she joined the scheme in July 2015, two months after the launch.

“The group helped him in many ways, including setting up the mini marts. Once, Johnson showed a keen interest in investing in a movie, so I spoke to a few friends in showbusiness.

“The movie, which is a Chinese comedy, was released in February but I don’t know if he invested in it or not,” she said.

The woman said Lee recently promised that her investment would see returns within two months if she invested in the new scheme.

“I’m not willing to part with my money now as I still have about RM300,000 stuck in the failed scheme.

“Unless I get back some of my capital, I’m not so keen. Actually, I’ve lost faith,” she said.

The woman voiced regret for not listening to one of Lee’s family members.

“She told me to withdraw my money at the end of last year as the scheme was facing problems. I didn’t believe her,” she said, adding that she used to command about 100 downliners.

Some members, she said, had indicated that they would not be attending a May 20 company dinner although they had bought tickets.

Each ticket for the vegetarian dinner costs RM400.

Another long-time member, who wished to be known only as Ah Gooi, said Lee should earn their trust back before launching the new scheme.

“Johnson should return our capital as soon as possible. There’s no point in him appearing in videos to explain anything to us.

“We once believed in him but he betrayed our trust.

“I convinced about 200 of my family members, friends and colleagues to join JJPTR, saying that it was a good investment plan. Now, every time I see them, I just don’t know what to say,” he said.

Meanwhile, in Alor Setar, a 24-year-old businessman lodged a report at the Yan police station in Pendang after becoming the latest victim of a forex scam involving some RM3.5mil.

Kedah Commercial Crime Investigation Department chief Supt Chan Teck Paing said the businessman was introduced to the scheme by his 41-year-old friend in March last year, promising him returns of at least 50% every fortnight.

“He invested RM50,000 and by March this year, 500 people had also joined the scheme. According to the businessman, the amount deposited by their members totalled about RM3.5mil,” he said, adding that all investors had so far failed to receive any payment.

“We found out that the suspect has been using his personal account for the scheme,” he said.


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PUTRAJAYA: Malaysians should be wary about “virtual coins” and be mindful that the ringgit is the only valid currency in the country, said Datuk Seri Dr Wee Ka Siong.

“The only other ‘currency’ we can use is the one commonly seen during Cheng Beng (Tomb Sweeping Day) – hell notes. We burn it for our ancestors,” quipped the Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department.

The topic about the dubious use of virtual coins came up yesterday when Dr Wee was giving a talk on the gradual adoption of cashless transactions in the country at the Malaysian Champions Club.

The club comes under the ministry’s Secretariat for the Advance­ment of Malaysian Entrepreneurs (SAME).

There has been much media attention of late about a mall in Penang which facilitates payment via virtual coins linked to an investment scheme.

The scheme supposedly offered returns of up to 24% annually with the virtual tra­ding of these coins.

Dr Wee dismissed such use of virtual currency.

“This is even stated in our secondary school Perdagangan textbooks – only the ringgit is our legal currency,” he said.


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KUALA LUMPUR: As the JJPTR collapsed investment scheme continues to attract attention, police have received reports of another scheme that is in trouble.

A 24-year-old businessman has lodged a report at the Yan police station in Pendang, Kedah, claiming he is the victim of a forex scam involving about RM3.5 million.

A report in The Star quoted Kedah Commercial Crime Investigation Department chief Supt Chan Teck Paing as saying the businessman had been promised returns of at least 50% every fortnight.

But neither he nor others received any payment. The man was introduced to the scheme in March last year.

“He invested RM50,000 and by March this year, 500 people had also joined the scheme. According to the businessman, the amount deposited by their members totalled about RM3.5 million,” Chan was quoted as saying.

“We found out that the suspect has been using his personal account for the scheme,” he said.

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« Reply #179 on: May 10, 2017, 09:50:49 PM »
The founder made an appearance at a press conference facilitated by Gerakan, which was arranged because Lee was expected to refund the capital of some 100 investors with disabilities.

Several armed policeman were seen arriving at the scene here at Jalan Ipoh.

JJPTR grabbed the headlines a few weeks ago when its 28-year-old founder claimed that the company had lost US$400mil (RM1.738mil) due to a purported “hacking job.”

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« Reply #180 on: May 11, 2017, 10:51:51 AM »
KUALA LUMPUR: The elusive founder of controversial investment scheme JJPTR faced the public for the first time since news of its collapse broke in April.
 
Baby-faced Johnson Lee, 28, walked into the Kg Kasipillay community centre in Jalan Ipoh here to return the capital of some 100 JJPTR investors with disabilities.

Surrounded by staff dressed in black with the JJPTR logo on their chests, Lee’s arrival sparked a media frenzy.

He personally handed over ang pow to some 10 investors before sitting down to face the press.

“This morning, I came down from Penang with the sole purpose of refunding my OKU (orang kurang upaya) investors. They have more need for the money.

“Today, at least, I’ve fulfilled what I promised. I do not wish to take any questions. This is all I have to say. Thank you everyone,” Lee said in Mandarin.

However, the media did not let him off easily.

Lee was questioned the amount that was refunded and when the other investors could expect their money back.

“I am not sure. There are too many investors on the list. I will leave it to my finance department.

“As I’m sure you know, I am too busy with other matters,” he said before he was ushered away into a Mercedes Benz.

Despite being at the centre for around an hour, he spoke for less than three minutes. Although armed police officers were seen at the scene, they did not stop Lee from leaving.

JJPTR grabbed the headlines a few weeks ago when Lee claimed that the company had lost US$400mil (RM1.738bil) due to a purported “hacking job”.

Investors started panicking when the 20% monthly interest they were promised was not deposited into their accounts in April.

Gerakan, which received complaints from over 20 investors with disabilities, organised the meeting yesterday. However, Gerakan Youth deputy chief Andy Yong said this did not mean that it condoned money games.

“We want to find a win-win solution for everyone. I’ve arranged for stakeholders to liaise with Johnson Lee on our proposal to give priority to handicapped investors.

“In good gesture, Johnson has agreed to refund the money,” Yong said.

A special task force comprising Bank Negara, the Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Ministry, the Companies Commission, the Securities Commission, the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission and the Attorney-General’s Chambers was set up late last month to investigate money game schemes.

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KUALA LUMPUR: Despite recent reports of JJPTR having gone bust, some 100 investors who got their initial capital back are thinking of putting in money again.

“All of us know that such schemes are risky. If we couldn’t get our money back, then it is fated,” said 58-year-old paraplegic Ang Tiau Koh.

Ang, who works as a part-time cashier, admitted that he got his US$1,000 (RM4,347) back yesterday but he would “look and see” before deciding to re-invest in JJPTR.

“Not right now but maybe later,” he said.

Self-employed Lee Tiun, 23, who is also a paraplegic, said he had felt very sad when he received news that JJPTR had collapsed.

“I’ve invested around US$450 (RM1,956) because I thought it could ease my financial burden. But I just managed to get my (20%) dividend for one month before they stopped paying.

“I felt sad. But now that they have returned my money, I feel positive again,” Lee said.

A 27-year-old investor, who is mute and works as an account executive, said he managed to earn around RM5,000 after investing in early 2016.

“I got back my initial investment of US$500 (RM2,173) today.

“I feel it (the scheme) is genuine,” he said with the help of an interpreter.

Most of the investors present were from the Klang Valley but there were also some who had travelled from as far as Kelantan to get their refunds.

According to an employee from JJPTR, the investors were refunded between US$25 (RM108) and US$4,000 (RM17,388).

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There are no shortcuts to riches, said MCA president Datuk Seri Liow Tiong Lai, urging the public not to fall for get-rich-quick schemes.
 
“Today, in conjunction with Wesak Day, I want to specially highlight the need to clean up our society and ourselves.

“We want the public to be aware of issues plaguing our society today,” Liow told reporters after paying his respects to the Buddha at the Kwan Inn Teng Temple yesterday morning.

Liow was referring to the proliferation of money games in recent years, of which their eventual collapse had caused many so-called investors to be mired in debt.

He likened the allure of getting rich quick to the temptation of Mara – the Buddhist equivalent of the devil.

“Money games attract those who are greedy and hope to get rich quick. To fight it, we need to propagate good religious values and a strong faith. Only then can we overcome greed, hatred and delusion,” he said.

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« Reply #183 on: May 11, 2017, 02:36:09 PM »
I just read a report about JJPTR refunding the investments made by 100 investors comprising people with disabilities (OKU) at a press conference in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.

According to the report, the event was facilitated by Gerakan, a component of the Barisan Nasional and the government.

The first thing that came to my mind is why is JJPTR only refunding the investments from 100 OKUs? Why no refunds to other investors, including the poor, single mothers or the elderly?

And why is Gerakan, a part of the BN, involved in publicising the refunds? Is it trying to create a good image for JJPTR?

It’s obvious that the publicity intended from such a refund is to regain public trust in what could be termed a ponzi-like scheme. Some may even call it a ponzi scheme.

In the end, the public will continue to support the scheme and the public will suffer greater loss. Is this what Gerakan and the BN want?

I have personally seen how “ponzi” schemes have damaged the lives of families and the elderly who have invested their life savings in them.

Innocent people are made to suffer because of the greed of a few. Even the government is going all out to weed out these “ponzi” schemes.

So, why is Gerakan getting involved in trying to give an image lift to JJPTR?

I hope Prime Minister Najib Razak will do something about these “ponzi” schemes and make sure no BN component supports it.

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« Reply #184 on: May 11, 2017, 02:44:51 PM »
KUALA LUMPUR: While the debate is on about whether the JJPTR investment scheme is a scam, some of the investors still have faith in it.

Especially so now, as JJPTR today refunded the money of 100 investors.

Lee Tuin, 23, who joined the scheme in February this year, said he still had faith in the scheme.

“A friend introduced me to the scheme and I thought I’d try it out since it can help me with my monthly expenses,” the online trader told FMT.

“I invested RM1,880 and received the 20% dividend in April. After that, I was told the scheme was no longer in operation.”

He said he might join the new scheme that JJPTR is planning to introduce.

Lee was among 100 less-abled JJPTR investors who received in cash the money they had invested in the scheme. The total amount paid out today was not revealed.

All 100 investors came to a press conference, facilitated by the Gerakan today, where JJPTR’s founder, 28-year-old Johnson Lee, made his first public appearance since the scheme was thrust into the limelight after it claimed its funds were siphoned off by “hackers”.

This had allegedly resulted in JJPTR losing over US$50 million (RM217 million). However, unverified claims put the losses at more than US$400 million (RM1,736 million).

Lee, speaking to the press in Mandarin this afternoon, said the payouts today were only part of its first phase of repayments. More investors would get their investments back soon, he added.

Kenneth Thien Kayen, 49, told FMT that Lee had proven he was a responsible man who really cared about his investors’ well-being.

“He (Lee) didn’t run away and he was considerate enough to refund our investments.

“So, I will definitely look into the new scheme he is offering. If it is stable, I may invest in it.”

Kenneth said he joined the scheme late last month, investing RM4,700, and received his 20% returns this month. He also earned an extra 5% for introducing another investor.

Asmah Abd Rahman, 45, on the other hand, didn’t get her returns despite investing in the scheme in February this year.

The mother of five, who had her 12-year-old daughter deliver her message as she is mute, said she paid RM480 to a woman she met on Facebook. The woman told her the money was to open a bank account under her name.

“She didn’t tell me what I would get for investing in the scheme, except that it could help me with my expenses.”

She, too, got her refund today.

Meanwhile, Gerakan deputy Youth chief Andy Yong, in a statement distributed at the press conference, said the 100 investors who had their investments refunded came from Segambut, Kepong and Brickfields.

“Gerakan does not support any illegal money games. We take this opportunity to alert members of the public to be cautious.

“Please refrain from investing in companies and websites which are neither authorised nor approved under the relevant laws and regulations.”

JJPTR’s money game investment scheme was established in 2015, promising returns as high as 20% a month to members.

The new scheme announced earlier this month, promises 35% returns a month.

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« Reply #185 on: May 12, 2017, 07:52:39 PM »
GEORGE TOWN: Some 20 officers from the federal police, Companies Commission of Malaysia and Bank Negara Malaysia stormed the JJPTR office at Perak Road here today.

At about 12.30pm, the officers rushed up to the first floor of the shoplot, ignoring questions by reporters about their presence.

Police then blocked the doors of the office, telling members of the media to “wait for Bukit Aman” to respond on the matter.

Police reportedly froze five JJPTR bank accounts following a multi-agency crackdown led by the Attorney-General’s Chambers.

JJPTR was thrust into the limelight after it claimed that its funds were siphoned off by “hackers”.

This allegedly resulted in JJPTR losing over US$50 million (RM217 million). However, unverified claims put the losses at more than US$400 million (RM1.7 billion).

Investors had gone knocking on JJPTR’s doors when their 20% returns were not banked into their accounts last month.

On Apr 27, the company promised to refund all investment funds collected from its 31,000 members.

Founder Johnson Lee said this was made possible through the injection of capital from a new pool of foreign investors.

He said refunds would be given to those who had just sent in their initial investment capital as well.

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« Reply #186 on: May 17, 2017, 12:11:00 PM »
PETALING JAYA: Following the arrest of Johnson Lee and two of his key associates in the JJPTR investment scheme, everything has come to a full stop as to its business operations and Facebook (FB) pages, The Star reported.

The actions by police and Bank Negara have brought to a close any hope investors have of seeing their money back, with some lamenting their loss but knowing there was no point in making any further enquiries at JJPTR offices.

Game over now ?
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What happen to their hard earn moni now ?

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« Reply #187 on: May 17, 2017, 12:20:16 PM »
Police froze five JJPTR bank accounts following a multi-agency crackdown led by the attorney-general’s chambers.  :( :shake: :nod:

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« Reply #189 on: May 19, 2017, 10:57:42 PM »
In what may come as a shock to no-one, investigators have found zero evidence of hacking in the JJPTR money game investment scheme. Gasp. In fact, according to investigators, there’s no evidence they even did any forex trading, at all. Surprise, surprise.

However, officers have found an extensive money trail that shows the majority of millions of RM taken, being moved into foreign bank accounts. This is beyond the reach of authorities at this time, although Malaysian accounts held by the firm have been frozen.

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« Reply #190 on: May 20, 2017, 02:22:20 PM »
GEORGE TOWN: Another money game scheme has collapsed even before many of its investors could get back a single sen.

A woman, who declined to be named, said she invested RM4,700 in the CG International scheme in April but before she could receive the promised returns of 22% monthly, she was removed from the company’s WeChat group on May 10.

“I received an apology message from the management, claiming that the company’s investment plan could not get approval and had to stop operating in Malaysia.

“When I wanted to check if I could get back my money, the group admin removed me from the group,” the woman said when contacted yesterday.

She claimed that many other investors of the scheme also did not get a single sen from their investment.

The woman, who is in her 40s, did not lodge a police report but at least two other investors did so.

One of them stated in her report that she invested RM4,700 in the scheme on April 25 after being invited via WeChat.

The factory worker lodged the police report on May 10 because she felt cheated after she was removed from the WeChat group earlier the same day.

It is learnt that the investment scheme was launched by CG Inter­national on March 6.

The company claimed that it was involved in forex investment.

According to an investment plan released by the company in March, investors could choose different investment packages of between US$50 and US$3,000 at an exchange rate of RM4.70 to US$1. They could withdraw their capital at the rate of RM4.20 to US$1.

Penang Commercial Crime Investigation Department chief Asst Comm Abdul Ghani Ahmad said yesterday that two police reports had been lodged against CG International so far.

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KUALA LUMPUR: At least a quarter of the 400,000 people believed to have invested in the JJ Poor To Rich (JJPTR) money game scheme are foreigners, say police.
 
Bukit Aman Commercial Crime Investigation Department (CCID) director Comm Datuk Acryl Sani Abdullah Sani (pic) said at least 100,000 of these investors were from abroad.


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KUALA LUMPUR: There is a poor turnout at the second anniversary dinner of investment scheme JJPTR, with many empty seats and tables seen at a hotel here. 

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Why the rich and the poor still fall for scams
BY MARK REIJMAN

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WHY do Malaysians still fall for scams? Though this is certainly not unique in the world, many countries are fertile grounds for scammers.

Even as countries develop, the scams develop as well and increase in complexity and ingenuity. In every country, there are people being scammed from rich (or at least moderately well-off) to poor.

In Malaysia, the total amount of losses from scams adds up to over hundreds of millions of Ringgit per year!

So why do Malaysians still fall for scams and what can you do about it?

1. You trust your friends. While trusting your friends is the normal thing to do and admirable in most cases, it is also what scammers behind money games depend on to grow their pyramid.

It is exactly because we trust our friends, that we let our guard down and think less critically, which is when you fall for a scam.

Trust your friends on everything, except money and investments. Reduce the risk by asking many friends for advice, don’t depend on one.

2. You are smart. But you can’t be smart in everything and in some areas you will be “information poor”, which makes you a potential victim. Who can tell whether your dentist, car mechanic, plumber, painter, electrician or graphical designer is overcharging you or not? Remember: you are never too smart to lose money.

In Malaysia, even prominent people are known to have lost money. In the US, Steven Spielberg, Larry King and John Malkovich were among the many rich investors who were financially ruined by Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme.

3. You are a little criminal. Yes, the scammers are the big criminals, but they get a lot of help from their victims, who all are too willing to be small criminals.

Buying smartphones at (legally) impossible prices, sending cheques to unknown persons in sketchy countries, investing based on private information, it all reeks of breaking the law. If you got your money back from a money game because you had a lot of downlines, you are not without guilt.

Your “return” didn’t come from an anonymous pile of money, some smart investment or the stock market. The money you received came from the hard-earned savings of common Malaysians, who came slightly later in the money game than you, trusted you and were slightly more naďve than you.

You are the accomplice and many times you are venturing in grey and borderline illegal territory to make money. Which is why so many scams are underreported to the police: because we are shy to talk about our own role in the scam.

Try this test: if you are not willing to have your role in the scam described in the newspaper, perhaps you shouldn’t do it.

4. You don’t listen. You try to drown out that little voice at the back of your mind that is telling you “this is too good to be true”, “this is illegal, “this is sketchy”, “20% returns per month is impossible”.

Try to listen to your inner voice more often. The only business that can generate 20% monthly returns is a loan shark. If you make that return, you are the shark.

5. You are scared (to lose out). And why don’t we listen to that little voice? Because we are scared to miss the opportunity of a lifetime, to miss out on that one opportunity that could see us get rich beyond our wildest dreams and fulfil every dream we ever had in our life and show the rest of the world: "Look! I’ve made it."

We are scared to lose out because we are greedy and greed is the one thing that is almost impossible to weed out.

6. Scare tactics work! Other scare tactics are easier to avoid if they wouldn’t scare you so much!

Whenever you are out of the blue asked for money or personal information because your (bank) account has been hacked or the tax authority demands you to pay up or be arrested and jailed, be very sceptical.

Your attempt to fix the situation might actually be the start of your problems! Banks and governments don’t just call you and ask for your personal information, scammers do in order to hack into your accounts.

I was recently asked during a radio interview whether scams will ever be a thing of Malaysia’s past. Any answer has to take into consideration the various reasons people still fall for scams, such as the once I described above.

Although increasing financial literacy can definitely lower the damage that scams are doing, it is naďve to think we can eradicate it altogether.

Scams simply appeal too much to our basest of human emotions: greed. But trying not to fall for scams and warning people against them, absolutely has its merit and every bit of help is a step in the right direction.

Mark Reijman is co-founder and managing director of https://www.comparehero.my/ dedicated to increasing financial literacy and to help you save time and money by comparing all credit cards, personal loans and broadband plans in Malaysia.
 
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Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/05/20/why-the-rich-to-the-poor-still-fall-for-scams/#ecdwltM2w7XewDXW.99

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« Reply #194 on: May 21, 2017, 02:40:20 PM »
In what may come as a shock to no-one, investigators have found zero evidence of hacking in the JJPTR money game investment scheme. Gasp. In fact, according to investigators, there’s no evidence they even did any forex trading, at all. Surprise, surprise.

However, officers have found an extensive money trail that shows the majority of millions of RM taken, being moved into foreign bank accounts. This is beyond the reach of authorities at this time, although Malaysian accounts held by the firm have been frozen.

BUKIT MERTAJAM: The application to remand JJ Poor To Rich (JJPTR) founder Johnson Lee and two of his right-hand men has been rejected by the magistrate's court here.   

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KUALA LUMPUR: About 400,000 people are believed to have fallen victim to the controversial JJ Poor to Rich (JJPTR) investment scheme, says Bukit Aman Commercial CID director Datuk Acryl Sani Abdullah Sani.

He said the victims were made up of 300,000 locals while the rest were foreigners.

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© Provided by MToday News Sdn Bhd monspace  KUALA LUMPUR: A group of 19 Chinese nationals arrived in Malaysia over the weekend to seek help after being allegedly misled into placing their money in an investment scheme by MonSpace (M) Sdn Bhd.

Hailing from different provinces in China, they lodged 19 reports at the Dang Wangi police station here today.

They called on the Malaysian government to investigate and take action against the multinational firm which is based here.

Accompanied by a lawyer and several DAP members, they said MonSpace had promised them huge returns which never materialised.

Speaking to reporters after making his report, Wang Dexiang said he had registered and poured his money in with the hopes of acquiring significant investment returns.

“MonSpace promised me a huge return, up to RM1 million, and claimed that the company will be listed in the US.”

He began placing a monthly deposit of 770 renminbi (RM480) in March last year. The total amount that he had put in came up to 140,000 renminbi (over RM87,000) by March this year.

Another victim, who wanted to be known only as Zou, called on the government to help her get back her funds.

She claimed she gained so much confidence in the scheme that she invited her family members in China to invest as well.

“Most of us invited our relatives to join in the scheme,” Zou said.

She added that they were unable to return to China without seeing returns from their investments.

According to Selangor DAP committee member Ronnie Liu, most of the investors only realised they could have been scammed after a year of involvement.

He alleged that the founder of MonSpace, Jessy Lai, used gimmicks to attract people to invest.

“Jessy Lai would talk about virtual coins and starting a new airline, and have all sorts of gimmicky events to attract people to join,” said Liu, a former state executive councillor.

MonSpace came under scrutiny after the release of Bank Negara Malaysia’s (BNM) updated Financial Consumer Alert list on May 12 revealing several companies and websites which the central bank said were not authorised to receive funds in Malaysia.

MonSpace topped the list of 291 companies.

Segambut MP Lim Lip Eng said BNM’s list proves that the company may be involved in illegal investment activities.

A check by Bank Negara revealed that MonSpace was registered under the Companies Commission of Malaysia (SSM) as a multi-level marketing (MLM) and “e-commerce in good health” business.

The domestic trade, co-operatives and consumerism ministry has no record of issuing any licence to the company.

Lim had asked the government and the Chinese embassy here to probe Lai in July last year.

He claimed that MonSpace used a direct-selling model that imposed a fee of RM500 for “normal members” and RM5,000 for shareholders.

According to him, 90% of MonSpace members were Chinese nationals, with some of them investing millions of renminbi.

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« Reply #198 on: May 22, 2017, 10:09:39 PM »
KUALA LUMPUR: Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM) has updated the Financial Consumer Alert list with the names of two new companies.

They are MBI International Sdn Bhd and M Face International Sdn Bhd.

BNM's list consists of companies and websites which are neither authorised nor approved under the relevant laws and regulations administered.

It said in a statement that the list is not exhaustive and only serves as a guide to members of the public, based on information and queries received by BNM.

The latest list consists of 302 companies.

The list will be updated regularly for the public's reference.

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KUALA LUMPUR: Second Finance Minister Datuk Johari Abdul Ghani has appealed to members of the public to alert the authorities as soon as possible if they come across potential money scams.

This will avert other unsuspecting Malaysians from also falling prey, he said.

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