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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #50 on: August 03, 2017, 11:42:37 AM »

JM is a gambler.
He needs to control his gambling.

Seriously!   
Poor John.

Make monies is enterprising business mah.

Usually people lose monies...u can term them gamblers loh...!!

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #51 on: August 03, 2017, 12:16:11 PM »
Make monies is enterprising business mah.

Usually people lose monies...u can term them gamblers loh...!!


Once again, raider chooses to talk a lot of hot air.

Just look back at Johnmaster's recommendations.

He has a string of losers.

I hope he is financially still alright.

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« Reply #52 on: August 03, 2017, 12:36:19 PM »

Once again, raider chooses to talk a lot of hot air.

Just look back at Johnmaster's recommendations.

He has a string of losers.

I hope he is financially still alright.

The only loser u can quote is GSB loh...!!

Proven not true mah...Proven John reccomendation make monies loh...!!

Just look at current stock price mah...!!

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #53 on: August 03, 2017, 12:41:32 PM »
The only loser u can quote is GSB loh...!!

Proven not true mah...Proven John reccomendation make monies loh...!!

Just look at current stock price mah...!!


I am truly amazed by your dishonesty indeed.

You are a terrible liar, or you choose to see what you wish to see.   :)

Johnmaster's string of losing stocks (all worse than GSB) are in this forum.





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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #54 on: August 03, 2017, 12:45:51 PM »

I am truly amazed by your dishonesty indeed.

You are a terrible liar, or you choose to see what you wish to see.   :)

Johnmaster's string of losing stocks (all worse than GSB) are in this forum.

I see the truth...GSB make monies compare with John recommendation of Rm 0.07 to rm 0.075 mah...!!

The current price is Rm 0.105 loh...!!

Why laugh at John leh ?

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« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2017, 12:52:26 PM »

I am truly amazed by your dishonesty indeed.

You are a terrible liar, or you choose to see what you wish to see.   :)

Johnmaster's string of losing stocks (all worse than GSB) are in this forum.

After few days of KNM, make some profits, moving on again. I bought more GSB into my holdings again this morning, I hope I did not trigger a rally. Anyway, GSB is for keeping until they launch all their projects and that's when I can see how it can go.

Apart from that, I am also buying LIONFIB... very few counter have such a huge NTA vs share price gap. RM5 vs RM1.. that's massive and best of all almost no bank borrowings.


Lionfib


How much did JM pay for this stock, Lionfib? 
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« Reply #56 on: August 03, 2017, 12:58:21 PM »

I am truly amazed by your dishonesty indeed.

You are a terrible liar, or you choose to see what you wish to see.   :)

Johnmaster's string of losing stocks (all worse than GSB) are in this forum.


Well, we all know what has happened to MSports.

no issues to me because I just move my money from MSPORTS into FGV. No issues to me if all of you make money from MSPORTS.



FGV


Another of his mis-adventure.   :cash:


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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #57 on: August 03, 2017, 01:03:52 PM »
I see the truth...GSB make monies compare with John recommendation of Rm 0.07 to rm 0.075 mah...!!

The current price is Rm 0.105 loh...!!

Why laugh at John leh ?


Although I say I make profit from selling KNM, I did not sell all, I am still keeping some for long term.


KNM


Did he make money from this stock?   :cash:
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« Reply #58 on: August 03, 2017, 01:13:35 PM »

I am truly amazed by your dishonesty indeed.

You are a terrible liar, or you choose to see what you wish to see.   :)

Johnmaster's string of losing stocks (all worse than GSB) are in this forum.

its the entry price,

I strongly recommend only 2 counters, GSB at 10sen, MSPORTS at 12sen, .....


Just watch MSPORTS and GSB, see if it is possible for me to lose any money or not at my suggested entry price for this round.

MSport


What happened to MSport?  So much for his stock selection.
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« Reply #59 on: August 03, 2017, 01:18:43 PM »

I am truly amazed by your dishonesty indeed.

You are a terrible liar, or you choose to see what you wish to see.   :)

Johnmaster's string of losing stocks (all worse than GSB) are in this forum.


its the entry price,

I strongly recommend only 2 counters, GSB at 10sen, MSPORTS at 12sen, as for GCB ( your former baby ) already advice to cut loss long time ago but .......

Just watch MSPORTS and GSB, see if it is possible for me to lose any money or not at my suggested entry price for this round.

GCB


He cut losses on GCB and advised the money to be put into alternative stocks he recommended.
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #60 on: August 03, 2017, 01:25:13 PM »

I am truly amazed by your dishonesty indeed.

You are a terrible liar, or you choose to see what you wish to see.   :)

Johnmaster's string of losing stocks (all worse than GSB) are in this forum.

its the entry price,

I strongly recommend only 2 counters, GSB at 10sen, MSPORTS at 12sen, as for GCB ( your former baby ) already advice to cut loss long time ago but with alternative selection BJCORP and KNM to recover that cut loss.

Just watch MSPORTS and GSB, see if it is possible for me to lose any money or not at my suggested entry price for this round.


Berjaya Corp


Recoup losses ???  or more losses?
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #61 on: August 03, 2017, 01:27:15 PM »
 ;)

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« Reply #62 on: August 03, 2017, 01:31:29 PM »

I am truly amazed by your dishonesty indeed.

You are a terrible liar, or you choose to see what you wish to see.   :)

Johnmaster's string of losing stocks (all worse than GSB) are in this forum.


After few days of KNM, make some profits, moving on again. I bought more GSB into my holdings again this morning, I hope I did not trigger a rally. Anyway, GSB is for keeping until they launch all their projects and that's when I can see how it can go.

Apart from that, I am also buying LIONFIB... very few counter have such a huge NTA vs share price gap. RM5 vs RM1.. that's massive and best of all almost no bank borrowings.

GSB


How much did he buy his GSB?  Well. 
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #63 on: August 03, 2017, 02:05:09 PM »
Johnmaster reminds me of a friend from an old stock forum..........same style, same pattern. gambler!  :nod:
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #64 on: August 03, 2017, 03:31:49 PM »
It is his loss not ours...... :'(


Sad.  Pitiful indeed.   

Should know when to stop gambling.
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« Reply #65 on: August 03, 2017, 05:14:23 PM »

Sad.  Pitiful indeed.   

Should know when to stop gambling.

What so pitiful & sad when his recommendations help people to make monies leh ?

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #66 on: August 03, 2017, 05:20:56 PM »
If 3iii says, John recommend stupid Msport as an example of poor performance raider agree loh...!!

But raider don like 3iii simply spin & says GSB is john bad recommendation etc...etc.. loh...!!
GSB no way poor performance mah...it is a fact loh...!!

If John Sailang on GSB his biggest bet ...which raider think he would....since this the biggest promoted stock in in investlah history...john would make good monies & get on just fine mah....!!

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #67 on: August 03, 2017, 05:52:41 PM »
Johnmaster reminds me of a friend from an old stock forum..........same style, same pattern. gambler!  :nod:

Oly, I agree with you.

He is very much a gambler.

Pitiful.
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« Reply #68 on: August 03, 2017, 06:31:54 PM »
Oly, I agree with you.

He is very much a gambler.

Pitiful.

John GSB recommendation had make alot of people rich mah...!!

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« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2017, 06:41:46 PM »
Poor John.  Hope he reframes his stock activities.

I suggest he get some professional help.

Seek out KCChong.
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« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2017, 07:47:27 PM »
Poor John.  Hope he reframes his stock activities.

I suggest he get some professional help.

Seek out KCChong.

John has the standard of KC loh...!!
Both also sifu mah....!!

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #71 on: August 04, 2017, 12:02:53 AM »
If 3iii says, John recommend stupid Msport as an example of poor performance raider agree loh...!!

But raider don like 3iii simply spin & says GSB is john bad recommendation etc...etc.. loh...!!
GSB no way poor performance mah...it is a fact loh...!!

If John Sailang on GSB his biggest bet ...which raider think he would....since this the biggest promoted stock in in investlah history...john would make good monies & get on just fine mah....!!
Don't forget FGV....... ;)
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #72 on: August 04, 2017, 12:06:38 AM »
The only loser u can quote is GSB loh...!!

Proven not true mah...Proven John reccomendation make monies loh...!!

Just look at current stock price mah...!!
Like that not fair mah. If you want to suggest people to look at GSB current price, you must also suggest people to look at MSPORTS current SITUATION!  :nod:
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #73 on: August 04, 2017, 12:07:27 AM »

Sad.  Pitiful indeed.   

Should know when to stop gambling.
How can we save DR KIM from his gambling addiction?  :S
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #74 on: August 04, 2017, 12:12:38 AM »
What so pitiful & sad when his recommendations help people to make monies leh ?
His recommendation is not helping making monies. Nothing but losses, time wasting and utter bull-shyteness of delusional assumptions...  :S
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #75 on: August 04, 2017, 12:14:27 AM »
John GSB recommendation had make alot of people rich mah...!!
Let's be honest, as much as we have very much differences, stockraider help others to make monies more than Johnmaster. This is a fact although some of your valuations were rubbish.  :D
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #76 on: August 04, 2017, 12:16:22 AM »
Poor John.  Hope he reframes his stock activities.

I suggest he get some professional help.

Seek out KCChong.
What? KCChong? :puke: Oly was thinking of Michael Chong......  :giggle:
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« Reply #77 on: August 04, 2017, 12:17:39 AM »
John has the standard of KC loh...!!
Both also sifu mah....!!
ongchef agreed that Johnmaster is Jambanmaster. Well.....still a sifu but toilet sifu...... ::) :giggle:
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #78 on: August 04, 2017, 07:49:36 AM »
Very surprising to see many popular old stock chat forum are dead. Hopefully some of the old stock talk forumers will be here also.

to old forumers...

Yep... we lose lots of money, but dont worry... we will get it back from all these newcomers. Last time we were newcomers... now at least we learned the hard lessons.

 :cash:
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #79 on: August 04, 2017, 08:04:56 AM »
Johnmaster and his strings of losers in 2014 and 2015 (summarised).

2014

Lionfib
18.2.2014  Price  1.00+
Today 0.50

KNM
18.2.2014  Price 0.70
Today 0.25


GSB
Identified at 0.05 or 0.06
18.2.2014  Price 0.10 (Bought more)
Today 0.11



2015

MSport
21.5.2015  Price  0.12
Today  Suspended

GCB
2015 Bought 1.00?
2015 Sold 0.80? (cut loss to invest into BCorp and KNM)

Berjaya Corp
12.5.2015  0.40
Today 0.30

KNM
12.5.2015  Price 0.60
Today 0.25

FGV
2.7.2015  Price 1.70
Today 1.60
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #80 on: August 04, 2017, 08:14:38 AM »
Johnmaster and his strings of losers in 2014 and 2015 (summarised).

2014

Lionfib
18.2.2014  Price  1.00+
Today 0.50

KNM
18.2.2014  Price 0.70
Today 0.25


GSB
Identified at 0.05 or 0.06
18.2.2014  Price 0.10 (Bought more)
Today 0.11



2015

MSport
21.5.2015  Price  0.12
Today  Suspended

GCB
2015 Bought 1.00?
2015 Sold 0.80? (cut loss to invest into BCorp and KNM)

Berjaya Corp
12.5.2015  0.40
Today 0.30

KNM
12.5.2015  Price 0.60
Today 0.25

FGV
2.7.2015  Price 1.70
Today 1.60


Johnmaster is purportedly a practitioner of deep value investing.

He tries to buy a company for less than its worth.

He looks at its book value and compares this to the market price.

An example was his buying of LIONFIB.

After few days of KNM, make some profits, moving on again. I bought more GSB into my holdings again this morning, I hope I did not trigger a rally. Anyway, GSB is for keeping until they launch all their projects and that's when I can see how it can go.

Apart from that, I am also buying LIONFIB... very few counter have such a huge NTA vs share price gap. RM5 vs RM1.. that's massive and best of all almost no bank borrowings.

Why was he attracted to LIONFIB?

The reason was it was trading at such a huge discount to its NTA.  Price was $1 and its NTA $5.  No borrowings (=little risk?).

Why then has this stock performed so badly?

Our leech champion in this forum commented on the HUGE MARGIN OF SAFETY  :D , perhaps he bought a lot of this stock too.   ;)

There is more to stock analysis than just noting the price to asset gap.

The company maybe a lousy company bleeding cash and appropriately priced. 

This is always the danger in fishing for these types of stocks.

You get the occasional gem in the rough.

But you have to be really good in this field.

These string of losers of Johnmaster showed he has yet to master this art.

raider's sifu should learn from KCChong, who has a better track record to show.


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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #81 on: August 04, 2017, 08:17:20 AM »
Let's be honest, as much as we have very much differences, stockraider help others to make monies more than Johnmaster. This is a fact although some of your valuations were rubbish.  :D

Not a dishonest comment from Oly.

But raider is not trustworthy.

Integrity issues. :)
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #82 on: August 04, 2017, 08:19:14 AM »
Like that not fair mah. If you want to suggest people to look at GSB current price, you must also suggest people to look at MSPORTS current SITUATION!  :nod:

Oly

I don't waste time with his silly statements or arguments.

May resurrect the old Dali post of mine to hammer in this point

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #83 on: August 04, 2017, 08:24:13 AM »
 :D :D :D......abalone$ to be shown on table,value is you pay until lost underwear,  monies lost nvm but must very panlai  bragg and song!!! :P :P :D :D :D :thumbsup:

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #84 on: August 04, 2017, 08:25:54 AM »
Since we are on this topic, it should be of interest to look at the past recommendations of DALI.  This is solely for academic and general interest. 

I searched through his blog and decided on those stocks he recommended under the heading of "Why I like Company XYZ"

Here are his recommendations:

14.1.2011    Why I like Century Logistics 

8.12.2010    Why I like Kumpulan Fima

14.10.2010  Why I like WTK

28.9.2010    Why I still like EAH

19.8.2010    Why I like Pacific & Orient
16.8.2010    Why I like Hevea Fibreboard

19.7.2010    Why I like EAH

26.3.2010    Why I like Wasco (A Lot)

18.2.2010    Why I like ETITECH
7.2.2010      Why I like Protasco
2.2.2010      Why I like Premium Nutrients

19.1.2010    Why I like London Biscuits
19.1.2010    Why I like Pintaras Jaya
18.1.2010    Why I like Evergreen (Again)
14.1.2010    Why I like DXN
13.1.2010    Why I like MYEG
12.1.2010    Why I like OFI (A Lot)
11.1.2010    Why I like Success Transformer (A Lot)
5.1.2010      Why I like EPMB


He posted on this topic 18 times in 2010.  11 of these 18 articles were in the months of January 2010 and February 2010.

To understand the thinking behind his stock selection, here is a glimpse:  http://~.~.com/2010/05/buy-hold.html
He has also written occasionally on his investing philosophy preferences in his other postings. 

He has also written and analysed many other companies too, but the above posts are chosen to get a feel of his recommendations.

How do you wish to analyse the above?  :) :handshake:


Click and follow the above thread.

You will understand why you should not waste time engaging with Neoh Soon Keong's ex-office boy. :)
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #85 on: August 04, 2017, 08:33:36 AM »
Here is the post to highlight why you should not waste your valuable time with raider.   :D

My criteria for accepting the 3 months before and after the call date is based on the advice of a investment book I read on how to assess the calls of "investment advisors" with some objective measures.  It was not something I designed.  We can use this method to measure this parameter in investlah in similar situations.

However, Raider, I think sometimes you are less objective as I wish for in our discussions.  I always try to derive my conclusions from my observations or from the facts.  I think you should re-write your conclusion on Dali's calls. 

Even using your criteria (which I suggest we should not in the future ... we will be forever arguing on when to take the cut off points to measure...) comparing the present prices with the day before, the day of and the day after or even the price 3 months before his call, the number of stocks he called going up compared to those going down are not much better than chance.

For example:  Using your latest price of 1.4.2011, 9 counters are up and 10 are down from the day of his call.

A monkey throwing a dart may get the same results.

Trust me.  Raider, re-look at your figures objectively.  Given the facts, I changed my views.  Raider, what about you?  :P  (The inability to do so has something to do with psychological bias, perfectly understandable ... which the investors try hard to understand to profit from their investing.)

Since you know Dali, ask him his philosophy.  He has written on his philosophy in his blog and it was clear to his reader. Click the link below. 

Here is a glimpse of his approach: 
"Buy and hold does not work in Malaysian market, and thanks to the globalisation effect, buy and hold does not work for global equity markets as well. .....

Stocks are just assets that is based on the liquidity in the system. Nowadays, liquidity can be totally withdrawn for a myriad of reasons unrelated to the underlying fundamentals. You cannot say that it does not matter if a stock is $10 today and will be $30 in 5 years, if it fell to $2 sometime between these two dates, does it matter? You can be Buffett in the 60s-80s but not today."
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #86 on: August 04, 2017, 10:31:22 AM »
Here is the post to highlight why you should not waste your valuable time with raider.   :D

This 3iii talk too much c.o.ck bcos no investment idea....thats why try to abuse John who had left investlah loh..!!

Raider ask 3iii what napshot stock had u picked for the last 3 years here loh...!!

This jokers had nothing to show other than his historical rubbish which is bought more than 10 years ago like Public Bank, Pet Dag, LPI, Nestle lwhich he is promoting everyday loh...!!

Yes this are good stock but only give normal return mah....!!

Can u pick great super gain stock like Eforce, KESM, Petron, Ajinomoto and Hengyuan or not ? This type of stock give breath taking return 100% to 600 % !!

To make matter worse, everytime people spread the good news...this 3iii & Oly Shyte...bad mouthed it...like this companies owed their grandfather millions loh...!!




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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #87 on: August 04, 2017, 10:46:09 AM »
This 3iii talk too much c.o.ck bcos no investment idea....thats why try to abuse John who had left investlah loh..!!

Raider ask 3iii what napshot stock had u picked for the last 3 years here loh...!!

This jokers had nothing to show other than his historical rubbish which is bought more than 10 years ago like Public Bank, Pet Dag, LPI, Nestle lwhich he is promoting everyday loh...!!

Yes this are good stock but only give normal return mah....!!

Can u pick great super gain stock like Eforce, KESM, Petron, Ajinomoto and Hengyuan or not ? This type of stock give breath taking return 100% to 600 % !!

To make matter worse, everytime people spread the good news...this 3iii & Oly Shyte...bad mouthed it...like this companies owed their grandfather millions loh...!!

U must understand John way of making monies loh...!!
Just look at GSB Charts loh...suppose u always buy at Rm 0.08 below and always sell above Rm 0.10 & above ask yourself how many great rounds u have make leh ??

Raider bet that John can matched or better than many many bluechips return mah....!!

U need to understand John way of making monies loh....!!
Definitely GSB is John's Great pick loh...!!

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #88 on: August 04, 2017, 10:51:20 AM »
STOCKRAIDER YOU TALKCOCK SO MUCH FOR WHAT? YOU ARE FAR MORE BETTER THAN POOR AH JOHN UND...

POOR AH JOHN IS SELLING UNDERWEAR NOW...HE DESERVED AS THIS IS THE LIFE OF CONMAN UND HAHA...
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #89 on: August 04, 2017, 10:54:42 AM »
STOCKRAIDER YOU TALKCOCK SO MUCH FOR WHAT? YOU ARE FAR MORE BETTER THAN POOR AH JOHN UND...

POOR AH JOHN IS SELLING UNDERWEAR NOW...HE DESERVED AS THIS IS THE LIFE OF CONMAN UND HAHA...

Raider is fair person...if u attack john ...just bcos of GSB...u r no better loh....!!
Just go n examine GSB objectively...minus John sky high Mahsing ambition....u notice that John did really well on GSB loh..!!

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #90 on: August 04, 2017, 10:58:14 AM »
If you have a long term successful portfolio, your dividends return per year beat any of the gains in any short term trade by few hundred folds.

Investing is so simple.  Yes, not easy for many.

You don't need to have very high IQ but just be rational, to do well in stocks.

I have both.   :D  That must be annoying to some.   :)

(I am just injecting some humour here.)   :) :cash:

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #91 on: August 04, 2017, 11:07:15 AM »
If you have a long term successful portfolio, your dividends return per year beat any of the gains in any short term trade by few hundred folds.

Investing is so simple.  Yes, not easy for many.

You don't need to have very high IQ but just be rational, to do well in stocks.

I have both.   :D  That must be annoying to some.   :)

(I am just injecting some humour here.)   :) :cash:

Can ur stupid Pet Dag beat simple john of just buying GSB below Rm 0.08 & selling it when hit above Rm 0.10 for the past 4 yrs or not ??

Don come up with s.tupi.d statement loh...!!

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #92 on: August 04, 2017, 11:08:16 AM »
U must understand John way of making monies loh...!!
Just look at GSB Charts loh...suppose u always buy at Rm 0.08 below and always sell above Rm 0.10 & above ask yourself how many great rounds u have make leh ??

Raider bet that John can matched or better than many many bluechips return mah....!!

U need to understand John way of making monies loh....!!
Definitely GSB is John's Great pick loh...!!

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #93 on: August 04, 2017, 11:16:02 AM »
Johnmaster and his strings of losers in 2014 and 2015 (summarised).

2014

Lionfib
18.2.2014  Price  1.00+
Today 0.50

KNM
18.2.2014  Price 0.70
Today 0.25


GSB
Identified at 0.05 or 0.06
18.2.2014  Price 0.10 (Bought more)
Today 0.11



2015

MSport
21.5.2015  Price  0.12
Today  Suspended

GCB
2015 Bought 1.00?
2015 Sold 0.80? (cut loss to invest into BCorp and KNM)

Berjaya Corp
12.5.2015  0.40
Today 0.30

KNM
12.5.2015  Price 0.60
Today 0.25

FGV
2.7.2015  Price 1.70
Today 1.60



Given the facts, we can only have an obvious conclusion.

Very lousy stock picker.
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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #94 on: August 04, 2017, 11:18:07 AM »


Given the facts, we can only have an obvious conclusion.

Very lousy stock picker.

Pls don divert loh....!!
GSB based on John's formula actually beat ur Pet Dag loh...!!


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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #95 on: August 04, 2017, 12:29:29 PM »
Pls don divert loh....!!
GSB based on John's formula actually beat ur Pet Dag loh...!!


 Poor John.   :D
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4.  Buy at a sensible price

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #96 on: August 04, 2017, 12:38:08 PM »

 Poor John.   :D

JOHN GSB BEAT 3iii PET d LOH....!!

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #97 on: August 04, 2017, 12:43:40 PM »
JOHN GSB BEAT 3iii PET d LOH....!!


Poor raider.  Stay calm.
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4.  Buy at a sensible price

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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #98 on: August 04, 2017, 12:58:50 PM »

RAIDER ALSO LAYDOWN THE FACT THAT GSB BEAT PET D BASED ON JOHN INVESTMENT MODEL FOR GSB MAH..!!





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Re: Poor Johnmaster and his GSB
« Reply #99 on: August 04, 2017, 01:10:01 PM »

This was the very last post by Johnmaster.

Yes, he has not appeared in this forum for a long time.



Just relax, this fall is just temporary... mostly due to force selling from those punter who were stucked the other day. Once they are cleared MSPORTS will move up again. This is a solid profitable company, they are doing consumer based business in the country that has the world largest population. They are cash rich, NTA of this company is RM1.05, meaning share price is now 8.5sen is a discount of more than 1000% and almost zero debt.

Only thing people worry, China stock con man. If you are talking about the first time ever, 1000% discount and almost zero debt with huge cash pile and a profitable business in the world largest population. I don't see why I cant take a risk dispite fear of con man company. Local based company in KLSE can also be con man company, so risk are more or less the same except that MSPORTS offers higher value vs risk.


This post reveals a lot too.

Perhaps, raider disagrees.   :)
Itís better to buy a wonderful company at fair price than a fair company at wonderful price.

1.  Understand the business
2.  Business must have DCA
3.  Management with integrity
4.  Buy at a sensible price

Big Fat Pitch.  Focus Investing.  Long term portfolio for capital appreciation and income.